Luis Ortiz is a better boxer than AJ

[_original_]

Ortiz brough that sweet Cuban boxing style to the table and Wilder, outgunned most of the fight, solved the problem and stopped the skilled King Kong. AJ is a basic boxer at best and will not present any of those problems to Wilder. True, he has his own qualities such as size and athleticism to match Wilder's but people need to stop saying he'll outbox Wilder. It won't happen.

[RussB23]

Yes but AJ is bigger and faster and throws more punches. Probably more powerful too.

[oscar9992]

Ortiz was winning the fight before getting stopped by Wilder... Not sure he would be ahead vs AJ.

AJ doesn't lose many rounds as Wilder, who loses even to mediocre boxers like Washington, was was winning 5-0 before getting stopped a year ago.

[_original_]

Yes but AJ is bigger and faster and throws more punches. Probably more powerful too.

That is true, I'm not discounting that at all. AJ s a force in his own right but he's not a skilled boxer like he's being made out to be by some.

[sicko]

Yes he is, Ortiz is more skilled than most and he still beats most and if he works his way back up Ortiz is worthy of a REMATCH with Wilder who he was clearly beating before Wilder turned it around with that Power

AJ is young, strong and with more Power though

[Sentient A.I.]

He didn't really solve the problem he just has superior stamina to old, fat Ortiz who wasted a lot of energy trying to get Wilder out of there in the 7th. Ortiz clearly had insufficient energy left by the tenth whilst Wilder was still explosive and took advantage of his fading opponent.

[_original_]

Ortiz was winning the fight before getting stopped by Wilder... Not sure he would be ahead vs AJ.

AJ doesn't lose many rounds as Wilder, who loses even to mediocre boxers like Washington, was winning 5-0 before getting stopped by Wilder a year ago.

I think it's reasonable to state that Ortiz could outbox AJ, early on at least. Probably easier than Wilder since AJ has a very basic style and Wilder is more unorthodox and unpredictable Style wise, it wouldn't be too outlandish to argue that Ortiz could UD AJ if one is unbiased.

Yes, we can agree that Wilder is an atrocious boxer and has no intention to look sweet in there. But AJ isn't too far off IMO.

[ShoulderRoll]

The southpaw stance also makes Ortiz more awkward too, on top of everything else.

[oscar9992]

I think it's reasonable to state that Ortiz could outbox AJ, early on at least. Probably easier than Wilder since AJ has a very basic style and Wilder is more unorthodox and unpredictable

Yes, we can agree that Wilder is an atrocious boxer and has no intention to look sweet in there. But AJ isn't too far off IMO.

Wilder is very average boxer who gets outboxed often... Washington was winning 5-0 before he got stopped.

AJ barely loses rounds to that kinda boxers.

[Vinnykin]

That is true, I'm not discounting that at all. AJ s a force in his own right but he's not a skilled boxer like he's being made out to be by some.

Styles make fights, hard to see how Ortiz counter punch's the bigger, more powerful counter puncher, he'd be in danger coming forward flicking out a weak jab against a massive counter puncher like Joshua.

Joshua's style is basic but hugely effective, he inches forward trying to time your jab and slip and counter you, Ortiz wouldn't be able to take the power and he'd be forced onto the back-foot like Takam was (a pressure fighter)