If the KO Didn’t Come, the Fix Was In!

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  • CubanGuyNYC
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    #71
    Originally posted by daggum
    ortiz simply had no chance to win this fight as i said beforehand. he had wilder out in the 7th and the ref didn't stop it and even gave him an extra minute of recovery time for absolutely no reason. then he was clubbed behind the head over and over and its a knockdown? no time to recover? judges had wilder up just in case? thats why i said wilder would win because he was the a-side guy and he wouldnt have taken this fight unless he was assured victory. boxing is so easy to predict.
    And, really, anyone who’s not 100% emotionally invested in this sport, to the point that they’re blinded, will agree with you. I can’t begin to imagine how many fights I’ve seen where the outcome was so clearly pre-determined. This one here seems to fall into that category.

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    • Dip_Slide
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      #72
      I had Ortiz winning more rounds going into the 10 but the knockdowns especially the 3 knock downs in the 10th would'be lead to Wilder being ahead by a point or 2, so if Ortiz would've somehow survived the knockdowns he would've had to win the last 2 rounds convincingly to win the fight and judging by how out of it he was it would've probably never happened. Wilder would've probably won the last 2 rounds rather comfortable and would've even stopped Oritz anyway. So all that talk about the scoring and the judges isn't very relevant now.

      I had Ortiz winning 3 out of the first 4, the 7th big and the 8th, these are 5 rounds, the other 4 I had Wilder winning and with the knock down in the 5th I can see how the judges could have the fight even going to the 10th. you can also give Wilder one more round from the first 4 round and he'd be ahead going into the 10th, nothing really happened in these first 4 rounds.

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      • CubanGuyNYC
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        #73
        Originally posted by jaded
        It was an incredibly exciting fight. Wilder's size advantage seemed more apparent than I thought it was and the youth advantage was the the bigger difference. Ortiz was just a tiny bit awkward at times with the early slip and first knockdown down. Wilder was definitely out on his feet at the end of the 7th and I give him credit for surviving the onslaught somehow with his feet under him. I think a younger Ortiz would have ended it but I'm not going to make any excuses.

        I had Ortiz ahead at the start of the last round but I knew if it came down to a decision he had no chance from the start. Wilder is tough and has heart...showed that for sure. He has an ugly style/no style but it perseveres...at least so far. Ortiz was just too old and tired at the end. Everybody waited for him to get old and he did...but nobody can take anything away from him because he was an inch shy from ending it in grand style in the 7th.

        It was a great fight...i loved it. I think AJ wins against Wilder...I think he hurts him like Ortiz did but will finish him after he does. He's much bigger and younger. I think a young Ortiz would have beaten both AJ and Wilder...maybe even only two years ago.
        Couldn’t have said it better myself.

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          #74
          Originally posted by moochi
          Forget the fix...how convenient was Wilder getting those extra 20 seconds after the round that he was saved by the bell.
          Originally posted by _Maxi
          This too.......
          Dude it’s New York. They’ve been super cautious since the mago incident

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            #75
            Originally posted by daggum
            ortiz simply had no chance to win this fight as i said beforehand. he had wilder out in the 7th and the ref didn't stop it and even gave him an extra minute of recovery time for absolutely no reason. then he was clubbed behind the head over and over and its a knockdown? no time to recover? judges had wilder up just in case? thats why i said wilder would win because he was the a-side guy and he wouldnt have taken this fight unless he was assured victory. boxing is so easy to predict.
            All you do Is cry and make excuses. I’ve never seen you give a fighter props unless you already had their **** half way down your throat before the fight

            He didn’t get hit behind the head. Wilder was not out enough to stop the fight. Stfu for once you’re clearly not a boxing fan

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            • kidbazooka
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              #76
              Fix was definitely in

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              • daggum
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                #77
                Originally posted by BufordTannen
                All you do I say cry and make excuses. I’ve never seen you give a fighter props unless you already had their **** half way down your throat before the fight
                yes you can give wilder props for taking a beating and coming back to win in 10 rounds against a woefully out of shape opponent but the point is he didnt' even need that comeback as he was already ahead on the cards and would have won no matter what happened. thats how boxing words. a-sides get a million chances to win and the b-side only has the marquez ko you cold punch which lets be honest happens once in a lifetime. thats why its kind of hard to give a guy credit for taking on a fight like this when all he has to do is not get ko'd cold
                Last edited by daggum; 03-04-2018, 01:33 AM.

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                • HanzGruber
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by daggum
                  yes you can give wilder props for taking a beating and coming back to win in 10 rounds against a woefully out of shape opponent but the point is he didnt' even need that comeback as he was already ahead on the cards and would have won no matter what happened. thats how boxing words. a-sides get a million chances to win and the b-side basically has the marquez ko you could punch which lets be honest happens once in a lifetime.
                  Then why do you watch? The only time you actually talk boxing without crying about robbery or trolling is to defend golovkins honor. If he loses I’m sure you’ll have your compu daggum ready and 5 paragraphs on how corrupt the sport is

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                  • chrisJS
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by sotgoda
                    Stop the excuses. the doctor wanted to check Wilder's eyes to see if he should continue the fight or not. That's what happened. Wilder seemed shocked as well that they stopped it to check him out since he did not go down.
                    They didn't have time in between the 60 second break?

                    Highly su****ious scores and highly su****ious refereeing there.

                    I enjoyed the fight and Ortiz' old ass did way better than I thought but Wilder was trash and had a lot of help and he was never going to lose this fight as long as he didn't get KO'd.

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                    • IronDanHamza
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                      #80
                      Seemed like a robbery was incoming but Wilder took it into his own hands.

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