Eddie Hearn - Major American Signing To Be Announced Next Week!!

[LacedUp]

I always thought Eddie wanted to sign Errol Spence and you could understand why.

[Eff Pandas]

The way Haymon uses de facto promoters like Di Bella, who don't have any vested interest in building a fighter, as a long term investment project, the way Hearn does, is what I'm talking about. Hearn came and said that the reason Wilder is still fighting for comparitive peanuts is that he has no promoter.

Hearn is just talking the talk he's supposed to be talking. He's yet to prove he can make a star in America himself & most of the allure with him as a promoter isn't building stars its putting together great overall shows. You & I coulda teamed up & gotten Joshua where he's at so idk that he deserves that many accolades for that one. Granted there are others, but how many cats has Hearn got earning $5M-$10M+ a fight?

Haymon can't act as a promoter because of the Ali act, and tbh, he probably doesn't have the ability to promote fighters properly either.

I think he was trying to do things like he did it in music. Cuz you can freelance sh^t out in music I believe. Idk that that fits the structure of boxing very well. So he can promote via outsources, but I think he didn't consider the differences with boxing promotion vs music promotion when a guy isn't at Mayweather-like level. Its easy to outsource the promotion of a huge name. Its harder to outsource the promotion of a guy who's not got a name yet & needs that extra push.

The first thing he should have done is was make sure that the promotional side of PBC was going to be taken care of. Somebody like a Don King, Dana White, or Eddie Hearn, was what PBC was crying out for. But Haymon seemed totally blind to that.

In fairness I think PBC woulda worked if it had went as planned & PBC never came to be & we just had Golden Boy Promotions ran by Schaefer & owned by Haymon. The original plan got effed up big by that shift & with Schaefer getting pulled from the game. And I think there was even a chance to recover if Schaefer had jumped on the PBC bus when his non-compete ended & if Ring Star had become the promoter for all Haymon fighters. Idk what went south with Schaefer & Haymon to not have them team up post the non-compete, but that was the move that was needed as I saw it.

The next best thing would be to have cats sign with whatever promoter they wanted to sign with within the web of PBC promoters so every guy would have someone looking out for him & pushing him & then the promoters would be pushing the fights while Haymon got them the best deals.

Honestly looking back on all this now I don't even fully get the blueprint Haymon had vs how he actually operated towards that blueprint.

Thing is I still think a TV deal is possible, if unlikely, cuz of his roster is so strong. As long as they keep a solid base of key guys, Spence, Charlo's, Broner, Mikey, Wilder & maybe a couple other guys anyway. With more guys signing with a promoter outside the PBC web & more guys discussing deals + more guys entering the market with some money (UFC + Hearn) that opening for a TV deal doesn't seem likely to be open for very much longer doe I'm guessing.

[KillaCamNZ]

If it's a "major signing", it won't be Wilder. That's minor.

[Tygshsu]

I always thought Eddie wanted to sign Errol Spence and you could understand why.

He was just dissing Spence saying Brook would beat him at 154 and saying Spence is being lauded as the new 'Sugar Ray Leonard'.I highly doubt it's Spence.I'd say Porter is the likeliest

[kafkod]

Hearn is just talking the talk he's supposed to be talking. He's yet to prove he can make a star in America himself & most of the allure with him as a promoter isn't building stars its putting together great overall shows. You & I coulda teamed up & gotten Joshua where he's at so idk that he deserves that many accolades for that one. Granted there are others, but how many cats has Hearn got earning $5M-$10M+ a fight?



I think he was trying to do things like he did it in music. Cuz you can freelance sh^t out in music I believe. Idk that that fits the structure of boxing very well. So he can promote via outsources, but I think he didn't consider the differences with boxing promotion vs music promotion when a guy isn't at Mayweather-like level. Its easy to outsource the promotion of a huge name. Its harder to outsource the promotion of a guy who's not got a name yet & needs that extra push.



In fairness I think PBC woulda worked if it had went as planned & PBC never came to be & we just had Golden Boy Promotions ran by Schaefer & owned by Haymon. The original plan got effed up big by that shift & with Schaefer getting pulled from the game. And I think there was even a chance to recover if Schaefer had jumped on the PBC bus when his non-compete ended & if Ring Star had become the promoter for all Haymon fighters. Idk what went south with Schaefer & Haymon to not have them team up post the non-compete, but that was the move that was needed as I saw it.

The next best thing would be to have cats sign with whatever promoter they wanted to sign with within the web of PBC promoters so every guy would have someone looking out for him & pushing him & then the promoters would be pushing the fights while Haymon got them the best deals.

Honestly looking back on all this now I don't even fully get the blueprint Haymon had vs how he actually operated towards that blueprint.

Thing is I still think a TV deal is possible, if unlikely, cuz of his roster is so strong. As long as they keep a solid base of key guys, Spence, Charlo's, Broner, Mikey, Wilder & maybe a couple other guys anyway. With more guys signing with a promoter outside the PBC web & more guys discussing deals + more guys entering the market with some money (UFC + Hearn) that opening for a TV deal doesn't seem likely to be open for very much longer doe I'm guessing.

Sure you must know the saying - you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. To build a boxer into a $5 - $10million per fight draw you first need a fighter who can beat the best in the world at his weight, and they are a rare commodity!

Re AJ - the Matchroom/Sky Sports link was a major factor in building him up so quickly, and that wouldn't exist if not for Eddie Hearn.

Getting Wlad to come over and fight AJ in London was a master stroke by Hearn. You know what control freaks the Klit bros are. They have to have everything just so, exactly the way they they want it - the ring, the gloves, the PED testing, everything - for Wlad's fights.

Keeping Wlad and Vitali sweet, without putting AJ at a disadvantage, is something I don't think anybody but Hearn could have achieved. And it took balls as well as brilliant negotiating, because AJ could easily have lost that fight, and almost did.

Going back to Haymon's advice - I just read that Luiz Ortiz was paid only $500k for the Wilder fight. Ortiz was AJ's mando with the WBA, and he would have earned at least 10x that amount if he'd waited for his shot, which was what Hearn had planned for him, instead of going after Wilder.

If I was Ortiz right now, I'd be tempted to get myself a ******* and do what Terry Marsh did to Frank Warren, lol.

[Wolfie*]

Wilder about to get milked by the white man!

[Sir Ed Hearn]

Think Hearn said there would be new guys on the Jacobs card, Szpilka's is on there on Boxrec without an opponent, could be Breazeale.

Just seen this on Twitter aswell

Breazeale ''major'' hahahaha.

[Dr.Cool]

I would imagine it is either Jermall Charlo or Andrade. Probably Charlo. Think about it. Canelo, G, BSJ, and Jacobs are all fighting at middleweight, all fight on hbo. Why would Charlo stay with Showtime? He will be like Jacobs, with Haymon as manager and Hearn as promoter. At the very least Charlo is going to need to fight on hbo.

Its not Wilder. That's just ******. Wilder isn't going to be blackmailed into signing with Hearn. He just fought Ortiz in his biggest fight yet and put all the pressure on AJ and Hearn to start negotiations instead of making excuses. If Wilder was scared, he could have signed with Hearn, fought opponents no where near as dangerous as Ortiz, and been guaranteed a fight with AJ. He didn't. He fought the top hw willing to face him.

[NahMean]

If it's a "major signing", it won't be Wilder. That's minor.

Lol hahaha. To be fair he's talked about AJ so often that it's helped build Wilder's own name.. He sold 14k tickets which is really good.

[satiev1]

It's ward.