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  • Boksfan
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    #31
    Originally posted by 1hourRun
    When Wladimir Klitschko had the chance and free to fight a legitimate champion ( Deontay Wilder) he picked a guy with a win over Charles Martin. But the 'Bronze-Bomber' had a top five win on his record and held the title he so longed for -- the belt his superior brother held....yes I remember what Vitali said....'My brother holds more titles but I hold the belt that matters'.
    Lmao you are too ****** and deluded, typical fangirl

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    • Stinger1
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      #32
      Originally posted by OctoberRed
      He kept losing to Odlanier Solis, 5 times, who won a gold medal and was very solid as an amateur - but failed as a pro because he never wanted to train, keep his weight in check and always jumped from promoter to promoter
      Different Olympic weight division to Solis. Ortiz went to the world champs and got knocked out in the quarter final. AJ after boxing for only 2 1/2 years went to the world champs and got a silver. Ortiz isn't some great amateur.

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      • Ray*
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        #33
        Wilder has got what he wanted, people talking about him. At the end of the day when you attach your name to Tyson, Lennox lewis, Klit and now Joshua then its a great thing.

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        • Straightener
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          #34
          Originally posted by champion4ever
          I don't know. A primed Luis Ortiz was stronger than a bull. He punch like a mule. I don't know about now but that Luis Ortiz would have knocked Klitschko out. In addition, of course, the entire region of the U.K. Would be tuning in watching the fight tonight; Including Anthony Joshua. Who would want to miss this fight?
          Only the coke heads and the hard core will stay up for that

          I’m gonna try and stay up to watch it but I’ll probably flake 3ish like normal

          I still think it will do decent viewing numbers in the uk though . The uk hasn’t got a lot going for it but the gear is strong and we love our boxing

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          • champion4ever
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            #35
            Originally posted by Straightener
            Only the coke heads and the hard core will stay up for that

            I’m gonna try and stay up to watch it but I’ll probably flake 3ish like normal

            I still think it will do decent viewing numbers in the uk though . The uk hasn’t got a lot going for it but the gear is strong and we love our boxing
            You are probably right. The main event probably won't be airing on Sky sports until about 4am British time. I hope you guys have DVRs over there.

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            • scarybodyshot
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              #36
              Originally posted by 1hourRun
              When Wladimir Klitschko had the chance and free to fight a legitimate champion ( Deontay Wilder) he picked a guy with a win over Charles Martin. But the 'Bronze-Bomber' had a top five win on his record and held the title he so longed for -- the belt his superior brother held....yes I remember what Vitali said....'My brother holds more titles but I hold the belt that matters'.
              Fight for 1 belt, less money etc... Or fight for more belts, make ALOT more money and as an added bonus break some records. The Vlad that turned up to Wembley beats every other heavyweight (including Fury) as he wasn't gun shy and left it all in the ring.
              I'm guessing you're a Wilder fan so you won't see reason as you all seem to high on whatever Wilder is smoking but boxing is business and it made much more sense for him to fight AJ.
              The WBC belt used to be the most prestigious until Wilder got hold of it and held it hostage for a couple of years by not fighting anyone ranked (h'es not getting credit from me for the Stiverne rematch as that was a farce). Tonight should give us a good look at where Wilder stands, personally I see him sticking behind his jab for a few rounds then as soon as Ortiz gets tired he'll pounce on him.
              The fact of the matter is the USA are so desperate to have a heavyweight champion so will do anything to keep that belt.
              After their respective fights then there is no reason we as fans shouldn't have the AJ v Wilder fight, it doesn't need to marinate any longer as it would do big numbers wherever it is held.

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              • Nelbob84
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                #37
                Your gear can't be that good if you flake at 3 �� No gear for me but I'll not be missing this one. Real chance of windmill getting sparked

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                • Illmatic94
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                  #38
                  from a technical standpoint Ortiz is the most skilled HW out there. period.

                  let's not pretend like Wlad was this master boxer. all the mofo did was jab, jab, right hand, clinch. repeat. his size and reach saved him.

                  I'm picking Wilder to beat Ortiz based on pure strength and awkwardness not technical skills.

                  but if we're talking Vitali that's another story. Vitali would be undisputed champ in this era.

                  but technically Ortiz is better whan Wlad. not even close.

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                  • techliam
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Illmatic94
                    from a technical standpoint Ortiz is the most skilled HW out there. period.

                    let's not pretend like Wlad was this master boxer. all the mofo did was jab, jab, right hand, clinch. repeat. his size and reach saved him.

                    I'm picking Wilder to beat Ortiz based on pure strength and awkwardness not technical skills.

                    but if we're talking Vitali that's another story. Vitali would be undisputed champ in this era.

                    but technically Ortiz is better whan Wlad. not even close.
                    Wlad was master enough to accumulate a resume that is practically unmatchable in today's HW climate.

                    and even at the age of 40, still gave today's no.1 HW hell.

                    I'll go where the evidence lies, and its certainly not in Ortiz's achievements

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                    • HarvardBlue
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                      #40
                      Wlad had pretty basic skills but with the help of Steward he honed it to perfection. Wilder isn't necessarily wrong but that statement doesn't tell the whole story because Wlad had a long reign as champion.

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