Hopkins, Jones & Toney: Let's Rank 'Em Again!

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    #161
    Originally posted by GasPed
    It's like this - Roy Jones in his prime was probably the best fighter I've ever seen. No one could touch him.

    But this thread isn't about who's the greatest fighter you've ever seen. It's about careers, accomplishments, legacy, etc. (At least that's what I think it's about). That's where Roy falls down (literally), because he's lost his last 3 and looked very bad doing it. Whereas Hopkins is ending his career on a high at a ripe old age of 41.

    I have no doubt that a prime Roy beats a prime Hopkins 10 out of 10 times. But the latter part of his career has been a disaster, and that, combined with his reputation as being a ducker/protected HBO creation, hurts his legacy. I don't like it, but that's the way it is.
    Problem is, Roy's resume is better then both Hopkins and Toney's.
    Two losses to taylor?
    His biggest wins were good wins, even though they were over smaller fighters. He stopped Glen Johnson on cuts. He came up and beat antionio tarver in a great preformance.
    But other than that, his resume sucks.
    Robert Allen 3 times??

    When you look at Roys resume, you see some of the top light heavys and supermiddle's of all time.
    No to mention he won a HEAVYWEIGHT title.
    Hopkins stayed content fighting B level fighters in the same weight class for most of his career.
    Not nearly as impressive as moving up and weight and still dominating naturally bigger men.

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      #162
      Originally posted by Bozo_no no
      Jones faced 17 current or former champions. The only other fighters who come close to that mark in this generation are Holyfield and Oscar.

      Roy won titles at 160 168 175 and Heavyweight.

      He was also pound for pound best in the sport for about 7 or 8 straight years, and didn't lose more than a handfull of rounds in an entire decade.

      After moving up to Heavyweight from Lt Heavy, he went back down and won the Lt Heavyweight title.

      The only ones discrediting his legacy are proven and laughable Roy haters.

      His legacy is unparalelled, and he makes a very strong case for the fighter of his generation.

      Anyone who disagress is doing so out of spite or bias.
      Hey Genius, what generation you are talking about, do you mean the last 25 years???

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        #163
        Originally posted by Gunstar1
        Lol, this post was about Hopkins. How is this biased??? Who's being biased here an Hopkins hater like myself or a diehard Jones fan like yourself??
        Yeah i like Roy, which is why im defending him.
        But you hate him, which is why you are...well....hating on him.

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          #164
          Originally posted by Bozo_no no
          Jones faced 17 current or former champions. The only other fighters who come close to that mark in this generation are Holyfield and Oscar.

          Roy won titles at 160 168 175 and Heavyweight.

          He was also pound for pound best in the sport for about 7 or 8 straight years, and didn't lose more than a handfull of rounds in an entire decade.

          After moving up to Heavyweight from Lt Heavy, he went back down and won the Lt Heavyweight title.

          The only ones discrediting his legacy are proven and laughable Roy haters.

          His legacy is unparalelled, and he makes a very strong case for the fighter of his generation.

          Anyone who disagress is doing so out of spite or bias.
          He wasnt fighter of the decade for nothing.

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            #165
            LOL, from here on out, all i need to say is....17.
            17 baby, 17.

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              #166
              Originally posted by Bozo_no no
              The fact that you spend HOURS upon HOURS with your old account hating on Hopkins for laughable and contrived reasons only contrasts how ironic and funny it is that you're pumping him up here to do the same to Roy.

              You get off an hating, and you misrepresent facts and spout non sense to do it.
              I called him a crybaby, which he was after the Taylor fight. That is why I called him Bitchkins, he deserved to be called that at that time, I've never seen a fighter that has bitched like him.

              Still I'm not crazy like you man, you def need to see a shrink soon.
              Last edited by GunStar; 06-14-2006, 06:20 PM.

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                #167
                Originally posted by PBF34
                Yeah i like Roy, which is why im defending him.
                But you hate him, which is why you are...well....hating on him.
                Who's better Roid or Leonard?? Who do you rank higher on the all time list??

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                  #168
                  Originally posted by Gunstar1
                  I called him a crybaby, which hewas after the Taylor fight. That why I called him Bitchkins, he deserved to be called that at that time, I've never seen a fighter that has ***** like him.

                  Still I'm not crazy like you man, you def need to see a shrink soon.

                  Your dramatic exit and crying was BEFORE the Hopkins Taylor fight.

                  You hated on him for a long time before that, and as usual looked like a spitefull ignorant ass for doing so.

                  Much like you do here.

                  And like I've said several times now, I am waiting for you to explode into another giant "I'm never coming back to this forum again" rant.

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                    #169
                    Originally posted by PBF34
                    His biggest wins were good wins, even though they were over smaller fighters. He stopped Glen Johnson on cuts. He came up and beat antionio tarver in a great preformance.
                    But other than that, his resume sucks.
                    Robert Allen 3 times??
                    20 title defenses, thats unbelievable. Bernard is an all time great with a great resume.

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                      #170
                      Originally posted by PBF34
                      He wasnt fighter of the decade for nothing.
                      Yea I agree, Hopkins was the fighter of the decade, no doubt about it.

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