Which "junior" was more artificially hyped in relation to their actual skill?

[RightJabLikeZab]

Chavez lost a lot of fights that went his way because of his name. I think it's him.

[Citizen Koba]

But was Chavez Jr ever hyped as being, not only the best MW & SMW in the world, but the best fighter who ever lived - when he was still a novice?

Was he hyped as being so naturally gifted that he didn't need a trainer or a coach, just somebody to lace his gloves up for him and call time when he was sparring?

Did Chavez Jr ever pull out of a domestic title fight and his team give the reason as him being so good it wasn't safe for him to be fighting domestic level opponents?

Ha ha ha well you do make a fair point, but I think we do have to take account of how many people bought into the hype rather than just how outrageous the claims were... I mean fuck it, anyone can claim any old ****e, but if only their mother believes them I'm not quite sure it really qualifies.

In this case I remember the bollocks people were talking about JCC jr, and there genuinely was a sizable contingent on here who thought he was the second coming (of his dad, that is lol) and who would wax lyrical about his sublime skills. In the case of young Eubank I don't think more than one or two people actually believed he was some elite talent, although there were some who were overly impressed with his athleticism and apparent fitness... to my eternal shame I was one of them. What a dumbass.

[boliodogs]

I voted for Chavez jr. Eubank jr. is the better fighter in my opinion. He trains hard and makes weight and he doesn't quit. If they fought now Eubank would win in my opinion

[kafkod]

Ha ha ha well you do make a fair point, but I think we do have to take account of how many people bought into the hype rather than just how outrageous the claims were... I mean fuck it, anyone can claim any old ****e, but if only their mother believes them I'm not quite sure it really qualifies.

In this case I remember the bollocks people were talking about JCC jr, and there genuinely was a sizable contingent on here who thought he was the second coming (of his dad, that is lol) and who would wax lyrical about his sublime skills. In the case of young Eubank I don't think more than one or two people actually believed he was some elite talent, although there were some who were overly impressed with his athleticism and apparent fitness... to my eternal shame I was one of them. What a dumbass.

Because of his name, most of Eubank Jr's early learning fights were televised live on terrestrial TV in the UK and watched by casual sports fans who didn't know enough about boxing to realise that he was dominating and KOing easy, hand picked opponents.

I'm not saying all those casual fans believed what his dad and his trainer were saying about Jr ... but they didn't reject it outright either.

Many times I would get workmates asking me whether I thought Jr would have beaten Hagler or Roy Jones, after they'd seen him knocking some Latvian cab-driver TFO, and listened to the crazy shit his dad was talking about him, lol.

[kafkod]

I voted for Chavez jr. Eubank jr. is the better fighter in my opinion. He trains hard and makes weight and he doesn't quit. If they fought now Eubank would win in my opinion

I agree .. if they fought now. One thing you have to credit Eubank Jr for is his dedication. He eats, drinks and sleeps boxing, lives the life and trains like a maniac, something you could never accuse JCC Jr of.

But The JCC Jr who won the WBC world title by KOing Andy Lee would have handled Eubank Jr without too many problems, imo.

[black.ink]

Eubank.

Chavez had the crazy backing and push to make a star out of a boxer that wasn't. He wasn't bad, but i don't remember anyone hyping him. If anything, most boxing fans knew his level and that he would be found out against anybody decent.

Eubank however had a lot of people fooled into believing he was going to destroy everybody at SMW. Mostly casuals, but enough to actually make him favourite over Groves with bookies.

[BattlingNelson]

Floyd Mayweather Jr. TBE? I mean gimme a fcking break

[Cutthroat]

Easily JCC Jr., he had millions of Mexicans backing him and tuning in to his fights.


Both men aren't bad at all, they just ran into very good fighters in Martinez and Groves.

Seriously, I'd give JCC and Eubank a shot to beat ANYONE at 160, they could easily be champions and more than held their own their time at 160.

[eco1]

there is no answer for that question.

[KillaMane26]

Maybe Chavez, outside of Chavez being a cashcow, don't think people were ever buying into him being a great fighter.