Comments Thread For: WBC Prez is Firm: Mikey Garcia Must Fight Jorge Linares Next

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Even if this were true (it's not), Why should Mikey take a worse deal than he's entitled to?

The WBC likely orders the fight at 55/45 Mikey or 50/50. Not 75/25 (WBC mandatories get 30% btw, not 25%).

50/50 in a purse bid is better for Mikey because SHO will pay more for the fight than HBO would. GB was offering Mikey 50/50 on an HBO deal, but HBO pays terribly, so why would he want that? Better off with a purse bid.




According to who? Top Rank? Who controls the media and the narrative? You're calling a grown man you don't know at all a "c*nt." Why? Because his former boss said so?

I think its apparent for reasons already stated -- prolonging the fight forcing the purse-bid benefits Mikey not Linares : and I call Mikey a c*nt based off his history of passing offers, from Gamboa, Linares, Easter jr. and Cotto -- maybe others can be added to this list.

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I think its apparent for reasons already stated -- prolonging the fight forcing the purse-bid benefits Mikey not Linares

Linares is the one delaying things. He could have called for a purse bid years ago, before Mikey was even the champion. Linares as former champion in recess and current diamond champion would earn far more in a purse bid than a typical mandatory. The WBC very well could order 50/50.

Linares clearly doesn't want the fight though. If he did, he'd go to purse bid next month instead of trying to fight Loma. If fighting Loma is what he wants, I won't knock him for it, but clearly Linares is the reason the Garcia fight hasn't happened yet. Linares has had a guaranteed title shot for years now and doesn't want it.

I call Mikey a c*nt based off his history of passing offers, from Gamboa, Linares, Easter jr. and Cotto -- maybe others can be added to this list.

But you get your information from propaganda sources. Mikey passed on fighting Linares on HBO because HBO was offering less money than SHO. So Mikey is a **** because he wants to fight on the network offering the most money? What sense does that make?

Mikey had a choice of fighting the IBF 135 pound champion or fighting the IBF 140 pound champion. He's a **** because he's fighting at a higher weight class to try to become a four division champion? What sense does that make? 140 > 135. He's taking the bigger challenge.

The Cotto fight was only available if he signed a long term exclusive promotional agreement with Golden Boy, a sinking ship company that can only get dates from HBO's shrinking budget. Mikey is a **** because he'd rather fight on SHO for more money? You're not making any sense.

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Linares is the one delaying things. He could have called for a purse bid years ago, before Mikey was even the champion. Linares as former champion in recess and current diamond champion would earn far more in a purse bid than a typical mandatory. The WBC very well could order 50/50.

Linares clearly doesn't want the fight though. If he did, he'd go to purse bid next month instead of trying to fight Loma. If fighting Loma is what he wants, I won't knock him for it, but clearly Linares is the reason the Garcia fight hasn't happened yet. Linares has had a guaranteed title shot for years now and doesn't want it.




But you get your information from propaganda sources. Mikey passed on fighting Linares on HBO because HBO was offering less money than SHO. So Mikey is a **** because he wants to fight on the network offering the most money? What sense does that make?

Mikey had a choice of fighting the IBF 135 pound champion or fighting the IBF 140 pound champion. He's a **** because he's fighting at a higher weight class to try to become a four division champion? What sense does that make? 140 > 135. He's taking the bigger challenge.

The Cotto fight was only available if he signed a long term exclusive promotional agreement with Golden Boy, a sinking ship company that can only get dates from HBO's shrinking budget. Mikey is a **** because he'd rather fight on SHO for more money? You're not making any sense.

Called for a purse-bid 'Years ago' huh? sounds interesting : how many years has Mikey been WBC world champion? how many times did he defend or even fought at lightweight? so you mean to tell me poor Mikey has been waiting on Linares all this time? Funny though, Linares had a rematch clause with Crolla and mandatory with Luke Cambell at what point exactly did he have the green light to order a purse-bid tho?

Hard to believe Mikey over multiple present and former champions being represented by different promoters or advisors, but I guess only Mikey speaks the truth.

Its very simple : You got Mikey Garcia in the drivers seat, you request permission to fight Adrien Broner that is probably going to be maybe your biggest payday for a diamond belt ( ironically) at 140 -- if you lose you blame the weight and still get to keep your 135 title and the Linares fight is still there in case you lose -- why fight Linares now and pass on such an offer? you talk about making money right? making smart decisions right? so only Mikey is allowed to do this. ok.

Team Golden-Boy come back after the Broner fight and offer Garcia a fight without a multi-fight contract like he initially wanted ( oh yeah GB made the attempts its a fact and documented ) -- he still turns it down, Mikey says to himself : I can fight Lipinets instead and win another world title ( easy money) and then force a purse-bid giving me the Lions-share with Jorge! sounds like plan to me!

....but its ALL Linares fault, and you talk about calling for a purse-bid? well I got to say, I really dont know at what point exactly Jorge could of done that -- not that it might even be wise to do that considering it probably would of been better to sit down and negotiate first given that this is for a unification ; last time I checked it was only a few weeks ago that Sualiman ordered negotiations to begin.

To say that Linares has been ducking is laughable, when Mikey has been benefiting : winning career hight purses, diamond belts at 140 and now maybe another legit tile ( IBF ) vs. Lipinets....tell you what bruh...I think Mikey should thank Linares for this so called ducking.

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Called for a purse-bid 'Years ago' huh? sounds interesting : how many years has Mikey been WBC world champion?

Linares was named champion in recess years ago, before Mikey was the champion. Nobody forced Linares to fight for the WBA title when he returned. He had a guaranteed WBC title shot and chose an either path. Don't get mad at Mikey for knocking out the undefeated champion Linares chose to duck.

how many times did he defend or even fought at lightweight? so you mean to tell me poor Mikey has been waiting on Linares all this time?

The WBC has been waiting. On four separate occasions now, Linares has fought another opponent rather than fighting the WBC champion. How much longer should the WBC continue to guarantee him a title shot that he's refusing to take?

Funny though, Linares had a rematch clause with Crolla and mandatory with Luke Cambell at what point exactly did he have the green light to order a purse-bid tho?

Nobody forced Linares to refuse to fight the WBC champion to take an easier fight instead. Nobody forced Linares to agree to a rematch clause. Nobody forced Linares to keep the WBA title to fight an easy mandatory instead of fighting the WBC champion.

Linares is free to do as he pleases, but if he actually wanted to fight Mikey, it would have already happened. He could have forced the fight and chose not to.

Hard to believe Mikey over multiple present and former champions being represented by different promoters or advisors, but I guess only Mikey speaks the truth.

Mikey is far more likely to tell the truth than TR or GB, both of which have an ax to grind because Mikey didn't want to fight a slave contract.

Its very simple : You got Mikey Garcia in the drivers seat, you request permission to fight Adrien Broner that is probably going to be maybe your biggest payday for a diamond belt ( ironically) at 140 -- if you lose you blame the weight and still get to keep your 135 title and the Linares fight is still there in case you lose -- why fight Linares now and pass on such an offer? you talk about making money right? making smart decisions right? so only Mikey is allowed to do this. ok.

I'm not criticizing Linares for making smart business decisions. It's been smart for him to duck Mikey. I'm criticizing you for being naive and believing Linares' promoter about who is ducking the fight when we know for a fact Linares can snap his fingers and force the fight, yet he chooses not to.

Team Golden-Boy come back after the Broner fight and offer Garcia a fight without a multi-fight contract like he initially wanted ( oh yeah GB made the attempts its a fact and documented ) -- he still turns it down, Mikey says to himself : I can fight Lipinets instead and win another world title ( easy money) and then force a purse-bid giving me the Lions-share with Jorge! sounds like plan to me!

GB only wanted Garcia vs. Linares if the fight was on HBO, even though HBO was offering the least amount of money. Why should Garcia take less money to fight on HBO? Doesn't make any sense. Let the fight go to purse bid and put the fight on whatever network pays the most. Common sense.

....but its ALL Linares fault, and you talk about calling for a purse-bid? well I got to say, I really dont know at what point exactly Jorge could of done that

AT ANY POINT. Linares has had TWO YEARS to demand a WBC title fight and FOUR FIGHTS IN A ROW he has refused to fight for the WBC title. He doesn't want the fight.

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Or hopefully the winner of Loma-Linares?

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Linares was named champion in recess years ago, before Mikey was the champion. Nobody forced Linares to fight for the WBA title when he returned. He had a guaranteed WBC title shot and chose an either path. Don't get mad at Mikey for knocking out the undefeated champion Linares chose to duck.




The WBC has been waiting. On four separate occasions now, Linares has fought another opponent rather than fighting the WBC champion. How much longer should the WBC continue to guarantee him a title shot that he's refusing to take?




Nobody forced Linares to refuse to fight the WBC champion to take an easier fight instead. Nobody forced Linares to agree to a rematch clause. Nobody forced Linares to keep the WBA title to fight an easy mandatory instead of fighting the WBC champion.

Linares is free to do as he pleases, but if he actually wanted to fight Mikey, it would have already happened. He could have forced the fight and chose not to.




Mikey is far more likely to tell the truth than TR or GB, both of which have an ax to grind because Mikey didn't want to fight a slave contract.




I'm not criticizing Linares for making smart business decisions. It's been smart for him to duck Mikey. I'm criticizing you for being naive and believing Linares' promoter about who is ducking the fight when we know for a fact Linares can snap his fingers and force the fight, yet he chooses not to.




GB only wanted Garcia vs. Linares if the fight was on HBO, even though HBO was offering the least amount of money. Why should Garcia take less money to fight on HBO? Doesn't make any sense. Let the fight go to purse bid and put the fight on whatever network pays the most. Common sense.




AT ANY POINT. Linares has had TWO YEARS to demand a WBC title fight and FOUR FIGHTS IN A ROW he has refused to fight for the WBC title. He doesn't want the fight.

You are compiling Zlaticanin with Mikey's run as lightweight champion ( or lack there of ) -- I provided the reasons why Linares has taken so long to get to this point ; namely the WBA as the root of it all, you must understand how things work in that department ( sanctioning protocols ) given your moniker, mr expert pffft, funny how you forget the WBA like the WBC also have rules.

Granted it was Linares decision to pursue the #2. lightweight in the world and as a result he put himself in this position however one must also consider Jorge had no idea Mikey was coming into the picture to claim the WBC, still the fight could of been made already ; team GB made the offer it was Mikey that past on it, that there should automatically kill any notion that Linares is ducking.

I still dont understand how you claim that Linares as you put it REFUSED to fight for the WBC world title when nobody can force Mikey to accept an offer that he does not want to take!

You call me naive, the feeling is mutual ; below are some gems from your last comment :

'' Mikey is far more likely to tell the truth than TR or GB, both of which have an ax to grind because Mikey didn't want to fight a slave contract. ''

'' Linares can snap his fingers and force the fight, yet he chooses not to. ''

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I provided the reasons why Linares has taken so long to get to this point ; namely the WBA as the root of it all

Nobody forced him to fight for the WBA title. He had a guaranteed WBC title fight. He chose the easier fight. Good for him. He should have lost his WBC status when he did that. To be sitting here years later still trying to hold on to his WBC mandatory status when he's passed up the title shot four times and is the champion of another organization already is ridiculous.

team GB made the offer it was Mikey that past on it, that there should automatically kill any notion that Linares is ducking.

But why are you choosing to believe the propaganda of Linares' promoter when the easily verifiable facts make it so clear who is ducking who? I just offered Linares a dollar to fight me. He didn't accept. So that means he's ducking me right? He passed on the fight right? It's ridiculous.

Mikey was given a lowball offer to fight on a cheapskate network. Of course Mikey said no. Why would Mikey accept the fight for **** money when a purse bid will allow the true value of the fight to emerge?

I still dont understand how you claim that Linares as you put it REFUSED to fight for the WBC world title when nobody can force Mikey to accept an offer that he does not want to take!

At any point in the last two years, Linares could have snapped his fingers and gone to purse bid against whoever held the WBC title. If Mikey didn't accept, he would have been stripped. Linares, on four separate occasions though, refused to fight for the title, and thus, should lose his status. Especially now that the WBC wants a purse bid and Linares is planning on ducking the purse bid to fight Loma instead.

You call me naive, the feeling is mutual

But I'm calling you naive because you're blindly believing GB's side of the story even though we have easily verifiable facts that prove GB is full of ****. I've made my full time living in this business for decades. Which of us do you really think is more likely to be naive about how fights are negotiated?

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Diamond belt?wtf? This is whats wrong with boxing too many titles!!! Most of the reasons is because too many champions are sitting on titles!!! Holding the belts hostage fighting once or twice a year!!!😡

Diamind Belt??? There bragging about a Diamond Belt?? Whoopie!!! I got a Pink Diamond Belt with Paris Hilton's Chihuahua Dog on the front of it!!!

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He had a spine when he stripped Canelo for refusing to fight GGG.

No Canelo had the spine to tell these RTARDS to go F themselves.

Did you read the part about a "Diamond Belt" vs. Their "Regular Belt"??? And your ok with this NONSENSE???? Do you have a brain??

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uhhh I'm pretty I made plenty of valid points in my last post in responce too your stances that somehow its been Linares evading or hustling the WBC's ruling regarding his mandatory status -- I think I gave proper perspective as to why we are where we are at this point ; In light of the facts a reasonable person can clearly see the argument that Linares has only been looking to fight the best Lightweights before even Mikey was in the division -- as you yourself noted.

also have you been following the recent news? team GB offered Garcia a deal, he turned it down, he also turned down Easter jr. and Miguel Cotto, but its funny he rather fight a Broner or Lipinets.

You do know Broner slapped around the guy who knocked Linares out???

And you nuts if you think a 50/50 fight that GB offered was fair???