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  • #61
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
    I don't think its fair to criticize Mikey for turning down the original offer seeing that GBP tried to attach 2 or 3 fights as part of the deal knowing that Mikey fought in court to get out of his previous deal because it forced long term options on him.

    Mikey as a free agent appears to be getting a lot more to fight Lipinets.

    The next offer seemed to be just to save face. GBP doesn't seem to be up to the same BS with Loma so I'm sure that fight will get made.
    Garcia-Linares was proposed with no other fights attached. Who knows what Mikey is getting to fight Lipinets. I doubt it's the $3.5m that was mentioned like Spence who ended up with $1.2m for Peterson.

    Mikey has his reasons but he's not very committal or easy to deal with it seems. If I am a fighter seeking a big fight given his history I don't put all my eggs in that basket and I go with the opponent who's considered better, more well known, for more money in front of a larger audience.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by chrisJS View Post
      Garcia-Linares was proposed with no other fights attached. Who knows what Mikey is getting to fight Lipinets. I doubt it's the $3.5m that was mentioned like Spence who ended up with $1.2m for Peterson.

      Mikey has his reasons but he's not very committal or easy to deal with it seems. If I am a fighter seeking a big fight given his history I don't put all my eggs in that basket and I go with the opponent who's considered better, more well known, for more money in front of a larger audience.
      CJS that was to save face after Mikey rejected the one with future options. I understand why GBP did that at 1st but IMO they had to know that offer would get rejected.

      He seems very easy to deal with if you deal with him fairly.

      Fight linares-go for another 135 belt. Fight Lipinets-go for a 140lb title. I think Linares is the better fighter right now but maybe beating Lipinets puts him in a better position.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
        CJS that was to save face after Mikey rejected the one with future options. I understand why GBP did that at 1st but IMO they had to know that offer would get rejected.

        He seems very easy to deal with if you deal with him fairly.

        Fight linares-go for another 135 belt. Fight Lipinets-go for a 140lb title. I think Linares is the better fighter right now but maybe beating Lipinets puts him in a better position.
        The Cotto offer was a multi-fight deal never Linares. Possibly because GBP aren't his full-time/main promoter so they didn't quite have the leverage they had with Cotto.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
          Even if this were true (it's not), Why should Mikey take a worse deal than he's entitled to?

          The WBC likely orders the fight at 55/45 Mikey or 50/50. Not 75/25 (WBC mandatories get 30% btw, not 25%).

          50/50 in a purse bid is better for Mikey because SHO will pay more for the fight than HBO would. GB was offering Mikey 50/50 on an HBO deal, but HBO pays terribly, so why would he want that? Better off with a purse bid.




          According to who? Top Rank? Who controls the media and the narrative? You're calling a grown man you don't know at all a "c*nt." Why? Because his former boss said so?
          Why would Mikey agree to a 50/50 split that GB was offering? GB has been paying Linares around 250k for his last 2 fights at the Forum. You'd think Linares was getting paid by GB to be asking for 50/50. Mikey was smart not to accept the deal and let it go to a purse bid if Linares and GB keep on insisting on 50/50.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by chrisJS View Post
            Garcia-Linares was proposed with no other fights attached. Who knows what Mikey is getting to fight Lipinets. I doubt it's the $3.5m that was mentioned like Spence who ended up with $1.2m for Peterson.

            Mikey has his reasons but he's not very committal or easy to deal with it seems. If I am a fighter seeking a big fight given his history I don't put all my eggs in that basket and I go with the opponent who's considered better, more well known, for more money in front of a larger audience.
            Garcia/Linares was proposed with no options but GB was asking for a 50/50 split. Does Linares deserve a 50% split? If GB thought very highly of Linares and believed he brought in a lot of revenue, they wouldn't be paying him 250k for his last two fight in the US. Just like GB would ask for a 50/50 split against Loma. a 70/30 split in favor of Mikey would have been fair. When the fighter you promote is making 250k from you and has traveled over seas more than fighting in the states, just means he's not in demand in the US.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by filup79 View Post
              Why would Mikey agree to a 50/50 split that GB was offering? GB has been paying Linares around 250k for his last 2 fights at the Forum. You'd think Linares was getting paid by GB to be asking for 50/50. Mikey was smart not to accept the deal and let it go to a purse bid if Linares and GB keep on insisting on 50/50.
              Because Linares is the WBC diamond and true champ and his mandatory so he was always going to get a high purse split regardless unless Mikey vacated. Plus if he didn't like the offer all he had to do was allow the purse bid to ordered by the WBC. Where again Linares status as the diamond and original champ means WBC sets the purse splits which would of been high for linares. Fact is Mikey not once but twice written requested the WBC to delay this fight and turned down offers from golden boy.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by filup79 View Post
                Garcia/Linares was proposed with no options but GB was asking for a 50/50 split. Does Linares deserve a 50% split? If GB thought very highly of Linares and believed he brought in a lot of revenue, they wouldn't be paying him 250k for his last two fight in the US. Just like GB would ask for a 50/50 split against Loma. a 70/30 split in favor of Mikey would have been fair. When the fighter you promote is making 250k from you and has traveled over seas more than fighting in the states, just means he's not in demand in the US.
                According to Dan Rafael the Linares offer is 7 figures

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Shadoww702 View Post
                  No Canelo had the spine to tell these RTARDS to go F themselves.
                  That's an interesting interpretation of the situation. Before Canelo even won the title, GGG was the interim champion and owed a title shot. Cotto paid GGG to step aside so he could defend against Canelo. Canelo promised to fight GGG next if he beat Cotto. Canelo broke his promise.

                  Canelo then said that if he could make a defense Amir Khan, he would put in writing that he'd fight GGG next. This time, even with the promise in writing, Canelo still refused to fight GGG. Giving the WBC two choices. Blatantly violate GGG's rights, or, strip a major cashcow.

                  The WBC did the right thing and stripped Canelo even though keeping the title on Canelo would have been far more profitable for the WBC. Why would you criticize the WBC for doing the honorable thing? And why would you applaud Canelo for blatantly ducking GGG even though he promised in writing to fight him?


                  Did you read the part about a "Diamond Belt" vs. Their "Regular Belt"??? And your ok with this NONSENSE???? Do you have a brain??
                  The diamond belt is an honorary award given to the winner of a non-title fight. It's not a world title. Why would I care if the WBC wants to give a fighter an honorary award?

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by DuckAdonis View Post
                    Lmao Mikey is the one who keeps refusing to fight Jorge.
                    If that was really true, Linares would ask for a purse bid and Mikey would be stripped. You can't look at the public words of promoters. You have to look at the actions of the fighters. Linares has had a guaranteed title shot for YEARS. All he has to do is snap his fingers and the WBC champion must fight him. Yet, four times in a row, Linares has refused to fight the WBC champion.

                    So clearly it is Linares refusing to fight Mikey.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
                      If that was really true, Linares would ask for a purse bid and Mikey would be stripped. You can't look at the public words of promoters. You have to look at the actions of the fighters. Linares has had a guaranteed title shot for YEARS. All he has to do is snap his fingers and the WBC champion must fight him. Yet, four times in a row, Linares has refused to fight the WBC champion.

                      So clearly it is Linares refusing to fight Mikey.
                      Are you ******? Why do you think Mikey formally requested for delays in the summer and last December from them enforcing this fight? So he wouldnt get stripped. Google it WBC put off a purse bid and gave him permission to not once but twice fight at 140 because he requested it. The WBC allowed this at the request of garcia. Boxingscene reported on this and there are quotes from the WBC fat prez saying they were allowing Mikey to first fight broner at 140 and then to fight lipnets at 140 without risk of being stripped there is nothing linares can do if the WBC just keeps breaking their own rules and giving him exceptions. He's never defended his 135 belt despite linares being the mandatory to the winner of mikey/Dejan and that was over a year ago. How is Linares ducking Mikey when Mikey is the one filling paper work to avoid purse bids not once but twice from having to face his mandatory? LMAO

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