Comments Thread For: WBC Prez is Firm: Mikey Garcia Must Fight Jorge Linares Next

[bigdunny1]

It doesn't matter what he says, it matters what he does. Linares, FOR YEARS, has had the ability to snap his fingers and force the WBC champion to fight him. He hasn't done it. He doesn't need to make anybody offers. He was the champion in recess. He had binding rights guaranteeing him a title fight when he returned. Four fights later and he still refuses to enforce his rights. He can "say" he wants the fight all he wants, but he's had the ability for two years now to have the fight and has chosen not to take it. Why would you listen to somebody's words when their actions directly contradict them?




He doesn't have to offer a contract. Go to purse bid. Making Mikey bogus offers so he can "turn them down" is nothing more than PR propaganda. I am officially offering Linares $1 to fight me. If he doesn't fight me, then he "turned me down." See how that works?




Linares himself may want the fight, but his promoter has chosen an easier path.

For four fights in a row, Linares has a guaranteed WBC title shot and chose not to take it. At what point should his title shot be taken away? The WBC is giving him one last chance by ordering a purse bid next month. If Linares declines and fights someone else instead, would you agree that he should no longer be mandatory?

of course it matters what the WBC said because you have zero proof of your theory being the reason. Since when has the WBC or any org had a problem telling the world that the reason a fight isn't happening or going to purse bid is because one side declined this?

The normal protocol is a mandatory is made and then ordered. And if neither side comes to an agreement to fight a purse bid is ordered and enforced unless one side requests permission to take another fight. Now the WBC has flat out said that side was Mikey not once but TWICE he requested to delay this process to fight someone else but their word isn't good enough for you? Why would they keep the real story secret and throw Mikey under the bus saying HE is the one who twice requested a delay? And somehow where everything leaks and get's reported this hasn't been reported by anybody but you have the scoop right? Is this another conspiracy like nielsen ratings? LOL

Then you contradict yourself by saying well the fact the purse bid wasn't ordered is proof linares didn't ask for it because a purse bid will only be granted if Linares asks for it but then get caught out the other side of your mouth later saying that the WBC is now ordering a purse bid without the request of Linares. So which is it phuk boy? If the WBC can request it now WITHOUT Linares consent then why couldn't they do it at any point in the last year? Even your bogus hypothetical doesn't make sense. So unless you have proof that Linares and golden boy secretly told the WBC not to enforce this fight and the WBC is lying saying the reason is Mikey requested permission to not fight his mandatory then shut the phuk up with your duck tales. Spin doctor.

FACT there can't be a purse bid when the WBC keeps letting 1 side not defend the belt for a year, not fight at 135 and twice turned down a contract to fight. Those are the facts. And that wasn't Linares side that we have proof did those things that would be Mikey.

I already posted my links direct for boxingscene with quotes from the fat phuk himself for why the fight keeps getting delayed. So again post a single link of WBC saying linares told them not to enforce this fight? I'll wait...

[bigdunny1]

The WBC could of ordered a purse bid at ANY POINT last year except for the little fact that Mikey requesting permission to take fights outside his weight class to avoid his mandatory. Let's look at the facts and timeline shall we

http://www.boxingscene.com/wbc-prez-...happen--113345

Feb 6 2017
Sulaiman wants to clear the up the big debate at 135-pounds - who is the real WBC lightweight champion?

The beltholder was Jorge Linares of Venezuela. He was made the WBC "champion in recess" after suffering a bad hand injury which made him unavailable to make a mandatory defense against Dejan, who eventually captured the vacant championship.

Linares, who now holds the WBA world title and the WBC Diamond title at 135, faces Anthony Crolla in a rematch on March 25 in Manchester. The first fight was close and had good action, but Linares was the better man.

Provided Linares wins the rematch, Sulaiman will look to have him face Garcia to set a single WBC champion at 135.

"That is the fight that must happen, Linares with Mikey, so that there is only one champion," Sulaiman said.


- out Fat boy's mouth himself they have to fight so there is only 1 champion/belt. And if you check back in 2016 he had already made the winner of Dejan/Mikey mandatory to fight Linares after his rematch.

http://www.boxingscene.com/mikey-gar...by-wbc--118282

July 7 2017
World Boxing Council President Mauricio Sulaiman has revealed that WBC lightweight world champion Mikey Garcia requested permission to fight Adrien Broner on July 29th, before an eventual showdown with mandatory challenger Jorge Linares .

Linares, who holds the WBA championship at 135, is also the WBC's Diamond champion at the weight. Because he is a "champion in recess" and never actually lost the title, the sanctioning body is going to order a fight between him and Garcia.

Garcia has already stated that after the contest with Broner he intends to return to the lightweight division to face Linares.

As BoxingScene.com recently reported, Linares is likely going to return to the ring on September 23. The opponent and the location is unknown, but Golden Boy Promotions has ruled out the rumored candidate, Olympic gold medal winner Luke Campbell.

"Mikey Garcia will meet with Broner in a super lightweight fight. We have a request from his promoters... [for that contest] and [Garcia] confirmed to me that his plan is to return to lightweight and make the fight with Linares," Sulaiman said to ESPN Deportes.

- out Fat boy own mouth that Mikey and his team requested they get permission to avoid being stripped for not fighting his mandatory

http://www.boxingscene.com/mikey-gar...by-wbc--121097

Oct 4 2017
At their ongoing convention in Baku, the World Boxing Council has ordered a mandatory fight between WBC lightweight champion Mikey Garcia (37-0, 30 KOs) and WBC Diamond lightweight champion Jorge Linares (43-3, 27 KOs).


- Fat boy says enough enough we are ordering you Mikey to fight Linares next

Golden Boy and Mikey were in negotiations and he twice turned down contracts to fight Linares. The final contract had no future offers just a 1 off fight and allowed Mikey to shop for the the best network deal and even fight on Showtime. After turning down the deal Mikey for the SECOND time put in formal request to the WBC to get permission to again not defend his title, not fight his mandatory and again fight at 140 NOT 135.

http://www.boxingscene.com/wbc-prez-...s-next--125165

Feb 11 2018
In January, WBC president Mauricio Sulaiman told Boxing Scene: “Champion Mikey Garcia received special permission to fight over the weight in February in a WBC special event. WBC diamond champion Jorge Linares will defend his championship in January.”[/B]

FACT Mikey is the one mandated to fight Linares over a year ago and the mandatory existed the year before to the winner of Dejan/Mikey to fight Linares.
FACT Mikey has turned down contracts for this fight
FACT Mikey has requested multiple times to delay the WBC from enforcing he fight Linares or be stripped
FACT Mikey hasn't once defended his belt or even fought at 135 in over a year.

Yet Linares is the one who doesn't want this fight? H0e please. Spin master working overtime today

Waiting for you to provide any links quotes from suilaman that linares told them he didn't want the fight, a purse bid ect???

Boxingscene reporting and direct quotes from WBC >> the word of dumb lying cvnt on a message board

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of course it matters what the WBC said because you have zero proof of your theory being the reason.

I didn't say it doesn't matter what the WBC says, I said it doesn't matter what LINARES says because he's had to demand a purse bid and he hasn't done it.

The normal protocol is a mandatory is made and then ordered.

Mandatories are rarely enforced if the mandatory doesn't ask for them to be enforced. In fact, Linares specifically asked for it not to be ordered so he could fight multiple fights for the WBA title. This entire situation was going on before Mikey was even the champion. How can you blame Mikey for Linares not getting his title shot when Linares was refusing the title shot before Mikey was even the champion?

And if neither side comes to an agreement to fight a purse bid is ordered and enforced unless one side requests permission to take another fight.

You're creating an alternate reality. Mikey can't take a non-title fight at 140 to duck a mandatory. The only thing that would take priority is a unification, and even that wouldn't have been approved since his mandatory was already a unification.

The special permission to fight Broner had NOTHING TO DO WITH LINARES. Mikey needed special permission with or without a mandatory to take a non-title fight. He was only able to seek that permission because his mandatory wasn't forcing the fight. He had a mandatory that didn't want to fight, which left him free to seek special permission for a non-title fight.

You have a complete lack of understanding of how the WBC works. You have to pay a fee to take a non-title fight if you're the champion. You can't take a non-title fight if you have a mandatory to fight. Mikey didn't have a mandatory to fight because his mandatory was refusing to fight.

Now the WBC has flat out said that side was Mikey not once but TWICE he requested to delay this process to fight someone else but their word isn't good enough for you?

That's not what they said. They said they would force the fight after Mikey's special fight, but Mikey could only have the special fight because Linares was refusing to force the fight. The WBC has given up on Linares forcing the fight and is now planning to force it even though Linares doesn't want them to.

Why would they keep the real story secret and throw Mikey under the bus saying HE is the one who twice requested a delay?

Nobody is keeping the real story secret. It's very public. As champion in recess, Linares can snap his fingers at any moment and get his title shot. Please show us where Linares has demanded a purse bid. You can't. Because he hasn't. Because he keeps signing to fight other opponents. Four times in a row now. Starting before Mikey was even the champion.

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FACT Mikey is the one mandated to fight Linares over a year ago and the mandatory existed the year before to the winner of Dejan/Mikey to fight Linares.

Existed way before that. Linares has had a guaranteed shot whenever he snaps his finger for two years now. Four fights in a row, he's refused to fight for the title. He's the champion of a different organization. If he refuses to participate in next month's purse bid, he should lose his status as mandatory.

FACT Mikey has turned down contracts for this fight

Of course he has. Why would he accept poison offers from GB when he's make more money with a purse bid? Mikey has no obligation to accept GB's tainted offers. You're completely falling for the propaganda. Linares can force the fight. He's been able to for two years. He refuses. No offers needed. Go to purse bid.

FACT Mikey has requested multiple times to delay the WBC from enforcing he fight Linares or be stripped

WRONG. Blatant lie on your part. Mikey has requested multiple times to fight in another weight class. Not to duck Linares. If Linares asked for a purse bid, Mikey wouldn't be able to take the fights in other weight classes. He's only able to take them because Linares refuses to fight.

FACT Mikey hasn't once defended his belt or even fought at 135 in over a year.

He hasn't had to defend because his mandatory refuses to fight.

[Shadoww702]

Canelo was the one that agreed in writing before the Khan fight that he would have 15 days after to negotiate with GGG before a purse bid was ordered. The WBC waited until the Monday after the Khan fight to start the 15 day clock to give Canelo even more time than agreed.

A purse bid did not require the attendance of Canelo or Oscar. GB could have sent practically anybody to submit their envelope. So that excuse holds no water.

For a 55/45 INSANE split. Wow!!! They waited 2 days to start the 15 day window. Wasnt the trial date set AFTER the Khan fight was already agreed upon.

Why the hell does it matter that Canelo FINALLY moved up to 160 2 fights later and fought GGG??? Why didnt Mr. 154-168 fight Canelo at a CW if he was soo desperate???

Man your so fkn biased your just wasting me damn time. It will NEVER be good enough
Youll just quit moving the goal line.

Your the type who is ALWAYS gonna Bi@tch and never be happy.

Quit fkn CRYING because a boxer didnt move up to 160 when YOU wanted him to. *** your GOD! He ducked Ward WORSE than Canelo ever did GGG.

[Shadoww702]

Im a GGG CRY baby!!!! Canelo waited 1.5 years and 2 fight later for GGG to turn 100 years old.

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For a 55/45 INSANE split.

Canelo knew the world champion/interim champion split before he ever agreed to fight Cotto for the world title. He knew the split before promising in writing to fight GGG if he was allowed to fight Khan. The split is not a good excuse. Especially since he could have petitioned the WBC to alter the split (they likely would have) and also because GGG would have been willing to take less to get the fight.

No matter how you slice it, it was a blatant duck. If you want to argue it was a smart business move, that's fine. I'll never knock a guy for doing what is best for his wallet. But sometimes, ducking is best for your wallet, and it's still a duck.

Why the hell does it matter that Canelo FINALLY moved up to 160 2 fights later and fought GGG??? Why didnt Mr. 154-168 fight Canelo at a CW if he was soo desperate???

Canelo stalled to pick up more easy paydays and hope GGG would get old. Why not just acknowledge what happened? GGG was interim champion BEFORE Canelo won the title. GGG agreed to step aside on the condition the winner would fight him next. Did Canelo fight him next? No. He fought him two years later. Just because you fight a guy two years later doesn't mean it wasn't a duck two years earlier.

Why would you advocate for a catchweight in a fight involving two champions in the same division? Why should a unification fight have a catchweight? Doesn't make any sense.

Man your so fkn biased

You guys gotta make up your mind. Am I a Haymon shill or not? What bias would I have in a Canelo vs. GGG situation?

[Shadoww702]

Canelo knew the world champion/interim champion split before he ever agreed to fight Cotto for the world title. He knew the split before promising in writing to fight GGG if he was allowed to fight Khan. The split is not a good excuse. Especially since he could have petitioned the WBC to alter the split (they likely would have) and also because GGG would have been willing to take less to get the fight.

No matter how you slice it, it was a blatant duck. If you want to argue it was a smart business move, that's fine. I'll never knock a guy for doing what is best for his wallet. But sometimes, ducking is best for your wallet, and it's still a duck.




Canelo stalled to pick up more easy paydays and hope GGG would get old. Why not just acknowledge what happened? GGG was interim champion BEFORE Canelo won the title. GGG agreed to step aside on the condition the winner would fight him next. Did Canelo fight him next? No. He fought him two years later. Just because you fight a guy two years later doesn't mean it wasn't a duck two years earlier.

Why would you advocate for a catchweight in a fight involving two champions in the same division? Why should a unification fight have a catchweight? Doesn't make any sense.




You guys gotta make up your mind. Am I a Haymon shill or not? What bias would I have in a Canelo vs. GGG situation?

GGG should of quit taking step aside money then that simple....1 year later to get old??? Damn your desperate!! Did Jacobs wait also?? How about Brook??? Because it wasnt the age that started making your GOD look human but the MUCH better competition.

Your "old" is excuse is full if SHT!

[bigdunny1]

I didn't say it doesn't matter what the WBC says, I said it doesn't matter what LINARES says because he's had to demand a purse bid and he hasn't done it.

The special permission to fight Broner had NOTHING TO DO WITH LINARES. Mikey needed special permission with or without a mandatory to take a non-title fight. He was only able to seek that permission because his mandatory wasn't forcing the fight. He had a mandatory that didn't want to fight, which left him free to seek special permission for a non-title fight.

You have a complete lack of understanding of how the WBC works. You have to pay a fee to take a non-title fight if you're the champion. You can't take a non-title fight if you have a mandatory to fight. Mikey didn't have a mandatory to fight because his mandatory was refusing to fight.




That's not what they said. They said they would force the fight after Mikey's special fight, but Mikey could only have the special fight because Linares was refusing to force the fight. The WBC has given up on Linares forcing the fight and is now planning to force it even though Linares doesn't want them to.




Nobody is keeping the real story secret. It's very public. As champion in recess, Linares can snap his fingers at any moment and get his title shot. Please show us where Linares has demanded a purse bid. You can't. Because he hasn't. Because he keeps signing to fight other opponents. Four times in a row now. Starting before Mikey was even the champion.

Still haven't posted a single link from WBC to prove this? We know there hasn't been a purse bid because Mikey requested the WBC not to enforce his mandatory. That's what the WBC has told the media for why they haven't enforced his mandatory. We can keep going round and round for as long as you want with you making up horse shyt claims without a shred of evidence. WBC has told you flat out why they haven't yet enforced this fight and that it's because Mikey has not once but twice requested special permission to fight someone else instead of his mandatory there fore no purse bid. There is no more to the story unless you can prove it. Nobody believes shyt you say. You are a clown with an agenda that has gotten caught too many times to count by users exposed as a liar. I have given you links from boxingscene and quotes directly from WBC for why the fight has been delayed. But again you have secret knowledge that has NEVER been reported anywhere (otherwise you would have provided a credible source to this by now) instead you keep thinking the more you repeat your nonsense turns it into a fact. No it doesn't just like you Nielsen conspiracy theories lol

First you say you know that the WBC hasn't enforced Mikey's mandatory because Linares behind scenes told them not to order a purse bid? But then later say WBC just enforced a purse bid without his consent? Do purse bid's only happen when Linares calls for one or when WBC decides to call for it? You too ****** to realize you contradicting yourself and the claim that a purse bid can only be issued if one side requests it. Until you post a link from WBC stating otherwise it has never gotten to a purse bid because Mikey prevented it by requesting delays in them enforcing the mandatory.

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We know there hasn't been a purse bid because Mikey requested the WBC not to enforce his mandatory.

Still haven't posted a single link from WBC to prove this.