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Originally posted by Gunstar1
Does that mean anything?
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Well...I could play devil's advocate and say that Trinidad, a naturally smaller man and a less technical fighter than Taylor knocked down...obliterated....Joppy; but Taylor couldn't.
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Taylor did knock Joppy down, after the knockdown Joppy started running to survive the rest of the rounds.Originally posted by K-DOGG
Also Tito was one of the hardest P4P punchers of all time.Comment
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Tito just stayed in joppy's ass the entire fight...Taylor didnt...thats the difference...and Tito is one of the hardest punchers of all-time...you knowOriginally posted by Gunstar1Comment
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3 for me! only cos you beat the man you dont emmediately become the man!
A string of fighters proved that to me for example Mosley beat Oscar, then he got propelled to that status. Mosley got beat by forrest. He got propelled also. Then came Mayorga and Spinks. At this point everyone seemed to have learned their lesson
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Only cos he beat Hopkins (contraversially) does'nt put him up were you think he is in my eyes
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that why the thread says IF taylor wins....Originally posted by elgaringo3 for me! only cos you beat the man you dont emmediately become the man!
A string of fighters proved that to me for example Mosley beat Oscar, then he got propelled to that status. Mosley got beat by forrest. He got propelled also. Then came Mayorga and Spinks. At this point everyone seemed to have learned their lesson . Aparently not .
Only cos he beat Hopkins (contraversially) does'nt put him up were you think he is in my eyesComment
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Originally posted by Gunstar1
Exactly; but would you favour Tito over Taylor if Trinidad came out of retirement? Probably not.
To me Taylor's on the cusp; but hasn't quite made it to the top of the heap, yet. He's got the talent, the skills, and I believe the heart. Winky is an incredible test; and if he beats Winky impressively, it's going to mean more than his wins over both Marquez and Joppy...and will help put the Hopkins victories in better perspective.
To me, deciding the P4P best is an incredibly complex procedure...which is why I say the showing has everything to do with it as much as the competition.Comment
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Flip the question round...
If people have Winky at #2 now, like they say they do, then what happens if he beats Taylor who beat Hopkins twice? Does that make him #1 P4P... in my opinion it does...
If it makes Taylor #1-2 it makes Winky a stronger #1-2 I think.Comment
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No I will not favor Tito. But lets not forget that I don't think Taylor deserves to be #1 if he wins, he should be #2.Originally posted by K-DOGG Exactly; but would you favour Tito over Taylor if Trinidad came out of retirement? Probably not.
To me Taylor's on the cusp; but hasn't quite made it to the top of the heap, yet. He's got the talent, the skills, and I believe the heart. Winky is an incredible test; and if he beats Winky impressively, it's going to mean more than his wins over both Marquez and Joppy...and will help put the Hopkins victories in better perspective.
To me, deciding the P4P best is an incredibly complex procedure...which is why I say the showing has everything to do with it as much as the competition.
I have Taylor #3 as of this moment, Wright #4, Pac #2. The winner of Taylor/Wright should be #2.
Until PBF loses, he should stay #1.Comment
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floyd is #1 p4pComment
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Originally posted by EXIGE
I would say no....simply because the result of that verdict would be that Taylor had been overrated based on two controversial victories. Winky's proven he's a solid #2 or #3...Taylor is still essentially unproven. Yes, his wins over Hopkins proved he could hang enough to convince 6 people that he deserved two wins; but he didn't convince everybody...or most everybody watching.
A win would put Winky on par with Floyd....but not necessarily unseat him, IMO......unless he knocks Taylor out or schools him like he did Trinidad, neither of which I see happening.Comment
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