Is boxing more psychological then physical?

[PsychoPat]

lol no

you can be as psychologically strong as you want, boxing is mostly cardio, guys think they're tough then just need to lay down and catch their breath after a couple rds

going 12 competitive rounds is more painful than getting hit if youre out of shape

Yeah you could be right but at the same time mentality comes into it as nervous energy can tire you quicker people like david price burns himself out from a lack of mental fortitude whereas others can go 12 rounds with not too much effort

[_Rexy_]

I'd say it's 50/50 on the mental and physical side. You need to have the physicality so you don't get gassed in a round, but a lot of it is mental. The famous Mike Tyson quote comes to mind

"People think that this is a tough mans sport, it's not. It's a smart mans sport. A tough man will get hurt really bad"

There's also trainers out there (Teddy Atlas comes to mind) who believe that a "glass jaw" is more mental than anything, which makes sense when you think about it. Teddy is a great mind and a great trainer, I'd love to have him in my corner, I would just hate to have to fire him lmao

[PsychoPat]

Also you gotta just plain outsmart a guy.

That makes sense to me mate I feel that's why mind games can play a part with antics before the fight trying to unsettle an oppenents pysche similar with fury and klitschko in the build up to there first fight.

[PsychoPat]

Mental strength is very important in every day aspect of life so why wouldnt it apply to boxing aswell?

if you a bitch in real life why wouldnt it follow you into the ring? I know alot of you nerds have the lil kid mentality where "they fight for a living they cant be cowards" but fact is they can be cowards. Fact is the fight or flight instinct will test every fighter and if they have that bitch inside them hiding it will find its way out if thats who they really are in real life, thats why you have some boxers who will basically go out swinging and then you have others who will quit.

Boxing is very taxing and calls many different fibers of ones essence inside that ring. Desire, Skill, Will, Heart, Determination, Life Goals, etc etc

Muhammad Ali couldn't have put it any better but the thing is not many will have the capacity and life experiences to truly understand/feel and intellectualize what Muhammad Ali truly said, alot of you fools are just 9 to 5 average joes whos life only pulls on a limited few fibers of the full spectrum of fibers that makes up ones essence/aura/true self.

"Champions aren't made in gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision. They have to have the skill, and the will. But the will must be stronger than the skill." - Muhammad Ali

Fantastic response mikey, I know exactly what you mean. By and large modern day man has been emasculated by society most of us lack the inner strength we could truly harness and a lot of it is to do with keeping us docile worker ants ****** to currency and a reliance on government instead of self sufficiency. There are ways to access parts of the mind that can help overall mainly creativity detoxing the pineal gland and learning transmutation of energy.

Your quite knowledgeable and probably have read it already but I recommend reading napolean Hills book, think & grow rich some might call it occult I call it knowledge. Its available for free pdf download off Google.

[PsychoPat]

That's true enough but I suppose in that particular fight it was very apparent that Yildirim was just too slow to trade up like they did. Fair enough if he did it late in the fights and went out on his shield but he did it in round 3.

I remember Spike landing a few pretty big shots on Eubank Jr and he ate them. I do wonder what happens when Groves gets him.

I suppose we all assume he's got his old man's chin but Groves is a bigget guy with good power that has carried through to world class.

Yeah I know what you mean about yidilrim, and I'm not sold on eubanks chin I actually see him buckle slightly from some of those left hooks sullivan caught him with. Groves has enough snap and power on his single straight punches to stop Chris rushing in but groves stamina to do this for 12 rounds is questionable eubank is relentless but groves size could just be enough to keep eubank off him. I still have groves scraping it in a close decision

[PsychoPat]

It's more of a mental approach than physical, it's like 80-85% mental and the rest all physical.

You see thats an interesting idea and it's the reason I made this thread as I'd read that exact figure a few times and often I felt it was 50% mental 50% physical.

[PsychoPat]

Excellent idea for a thread and interesting question.

Personally I think it depends on the individual, Victor Ortiz springs to mind. Physically built well and always looked good in the ring but his mentality was all wrong, he by no means at the head for it.

Then on the other hand you have someone like Margarito, a physical monster but by no means a specimen of an athlete. His mentality is ruthless come forward, throw whatever you like at me

Thanks bro appreciate that. I agree with everything your saying there's so many contrasts like that in all weight classes it's like Frank brunos demeanour compared to Mike tysons. People like Khan compared to maidana its certainly part of nurture which gives some boxers that hardened attitude as opposed to a self preservation mindset and rolling over as soon as they get punched

[PsychoPat]

I think more psychological.

That seems to be the general consensus amongst most of us on here I agree with it all.

[PsychoPat]

I'd say it's 50/50 on the mental and physical side. You need to have the physicality so you don't get gassed in a round, but a lot of it is mental. The famous Mike Tyson quote comes to mind

"People think that this is a tough mans sport, it's not. It's a smart mans sport. A tough man will get hurt really bad"

There's also trainers out there (Teddy Atlas comes to mind) who believe that a "glass jaw" is more mental than anything, which makes sense when you think about it. Teddy is a great mind and a great trainer, I'd love to have him in my corner, I would just hate to have to fire him lmao

Good points rexy, hope your well and still having a dabble with the cbd, Mike had a great mental strength in his prime seemed unshakeable and not to mention fear inducing against his opponents. I'm kinda on the fence with atlas alot of his recent views have been diatribe and overly biased but as a trainer he's competent.

[_Rexy_]

Good points rexy, hope your well and still having a dabble with the cbd, Mike had a great mental strength in his prime seemed unshakeable and not to mention fear inducing against his opponents. I'm kinda on the fence with atlas alot of his recent views have been diatribe and overly biased but as a trainer he's competent.

I think Teddy is a great trainer, though he can give lengthy analogies in the corner (Moorer vs Foreman is a good example of that) But the guy is also a loose cannon, He's pulled a burner on two fighters!