Comments Thread For: Wilder: Joshua is Not Worldwide, Nobody Knows His Name in U.S.

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wilder wouldn’t do much more ppvs vs Ortiz than terence Crawford did can postol.

With all due respect, you simply don't know anything about the business of boxing. Zero. You're a fan on the internet guessing. It's impossible to have a productive conversation with you because you know so little and yet for some reason think you know so much. Crawford-Postol didn't even do 50,000 buys. Crawford's following was basically nonexistent back then. Even now, his fan base is about 25% the size of Wilder's fan base. To think Wilder vs. King Kong wouldn't do better on PPV than Crawford vs. Postol is just so idiotic that it's hard to justify reading the rest of your post, let alone replying to it.

Again you can’t compare 900k vs 300k. Afternoon fights in the USA NEVER get good ratings. Boxing replays that are same day don’t get good ratings either. There is a reason why the license fee is SMALLER for US matinees. If u really are in the boxing business u would know this.

Of course. So why the **** are you arguing with me when my only point has been that more people in the US know who Wilder is? You list all of these reasons for why AJ is less known, I agree with all of those reasons, yet you're still arguing. WILDER IS MORE WELL KNOWN IN THE US THAN AJ. Period. Give any reason you want for why that is. That's fine. But to claim Wilder isn't more well known is just so ****** if you look at the numbers. Of course the numbers are unfair to AJ. HE'S NOT FROM AMERICA. HE DOESN'T FIGHT IN AMERICA. Nobody should expect him to be more popular in America. So why do you insist on denying basic fact? It makes you look like a lunatic.

If Joshua gets 60/40 fighting wilder in WILDERs country then you know Joshua is the draw and why he is making the bigger purse even though the late start time hurts the UK ppv market. Those are facts.

WHO THE **** IS DIS*****G THAT YOU GODDAMN ******?!?!?!? Seriously. Everybody knows AJ is the bigger draw worldwide. Everybody knows AJ is going to get the lion's share of the money. That doesn't change the fact that Wilder is more well known in the US. You're allowed to stop sucking AJ's **** for two ****ing seconds to acknowledge basic facts. You can't be this ****** and expect anybody to be civil or patient with you for this long.

As for Wilder Povetkin, wilder didn’t have a choice. PBC got blown out of the purse bid. If Wilder dropped his belt he would be just a contender not making 7 figures a fight. And that was a court settlement that Wilder won. Not a fight and not a payday.

More excuses. It still shows Wilder is bigger in the marketplace than Parker is. What would the purse bid have been for Parker-Povetkin?

You need to accept that the sun will still rise tomorrow if you don't say the absolute worst things possible about Deontay Wilder at all times in all situations. You're allowed to acknowledge basic fact. It won't be the end of the world. Try it some time.

[Chaos]

Beyonce can't even carry a ppv in his own country and here is talking smack LOL. What a phvcking goof punk.

[killakali]

With all due respect, you simply don't know anything about the business of boxing. Zero. You're a fan on the internet guessing. It's impossible to have a productive conversation with you because you know so little and yet for some reason think you know so much. Crawford-Postol didn't even do 50,000 buys. Crawford's following was basically nonexistent back then. Even now, his fan base is about 25% the size of Wilder's fan base. To think Wilder vs. King Kong wouldn't do better on PPV than Crawford vs. Postol is just so idiotic that it's hard to justify reading the rest of your post, let alone replying to it.




Of course. So why the **** are you arguing with me when my only point has been that more people in the US know who Wilder is? You list all of these reasons for why AJ is less known, I agree with all of those reasons, yet you're still arguing. WILDER IS MORE WELL KNOWN IN THE US THAN AJ. Period. Give any reason you want for why that is. That's fine. But to claim Wilder isn't more well known is just so ****** if you look at the numbers. Of course the numbers are unfair to AJ. HE'S NOT FROM AMERICA. HE DOESN'T FIGHT IN AMERICA. Nobody should expect him to be more popular in America. So why do you insist on denying basic fact? It makes you look like a lunatic.




WHO THE **** IS DIS*****G THAT YOU GODDAMN ******?!?!?!? Seriously. Everybody knows AJ is the bigger draw worldwide. Everybody knows AJ is going to get the lion's share of the money. That doesn't change the fact that Wilder is more well known in the US. You're allowed to stop sucking AJ's **** for two ****ing seconds to acknowledge basic facts. You can't be this ****** and expect anybody to be civil or patient with you for this long.




More excuses. It still shows Wilder is bigger in the marketplace than Parker is. What would the purse bid have been for Parker-Povetkin?

You need to accept that the sun will still rise tomorrow if you don't say the absolute worst things possible about Deontay Wilder at all times in all situations. You're allowed to acknowledge basic fact. It won't be the end of the world. Try it some time.

whoa your talking about sucking d*cks while u defend Haymon the known ****** lover? You are starting to really seem suspect.

We know Crawford vs Postol was a flop and didn’t sell well. I said Wilder Ortiz wouldn’t sell much more and it wouldn’t. It would barely get to 100k buys. Pacquiaos last few ppvs didn’t sell real well either. Hell Floyd vs Berto disnt crack 400k and we are supposed to believe wilder, who doesn’t have 10% of Floyd or Manny’s fan base is gonna do 250k buys? Lmao Whatever drug u are on u need to quit. Ward and Kovalev couldn’t hit that 250 k number or GGG until he fought Canelo.

People don’t pay to see wilder. Papered Barclays is proof. I say Crawford doesn’t sell yet his fight at mgm grand garden had as many as wilders did at the same venue when he won his world title.

U need to get a grip and stop d*ck riding. I never made an excuse for Joshua not being as popular in America as wilder. As I explained to u Wilder is only slightly more popular.

If Joshua’s fights were live in prime time on us tv he would have similar or better numbers than wilder.

Americans aren’t hanging out at home at 3pm in the afternoon on Saturdays to watch boxing.

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Haymon the known ****** lover

Please post your evidence that Haymon loves ********.

We know Crawford vs Postol was a flop and didn’t sell well. I said Wilder Ortiz wouldn’t sell much more and it wouldn’t. It would barely get to 100k buys.

But that's twice as much. So that's actually selling a lot more.

we are supposed to believe wilder, who doesn’t have 10% of Floyd or Manny’s fan base is gonna do 250k buys? Lmao Whatever drug u are on u need to quit.

Anthony Joshua vs. Deontay Wilder, if both are still undefeated, and fighting for the WBC/WBA/IBF/WBO undisputed heavyweight championship of the world, would easily do 250,000 buys. The public's fascination, and more importantly, the media's fascination, with crowning an undisputed heavyweight champion is immense and the coverage for the fight would be through the roof.

[killakali]

Please post your evidence that Haymon loves ********.




But that's twice as much. So that's actually selling a lot more.




Anthony Joshua vs. Deontay Wilder, if both are still undefeated, and fighting for the WBC/WBA/IBF/WBO undisputed heavyweight championship of the world, would easily do 250,000 buys. The public's fascination, and more importantly, the media's fascination, with crowning an undisputed heavyweight champion is immense and the coverage for the fight would be through the roof.

doesnt matter. Still not a big fight in the USA. Boxing is still a nitche sport it would get extra coverage but it’s not a fight of particular interest to us Hispanics. And putting leo Santa Cruz on the undercard like Haymon always thinks makes a difference won’t make one.

Wilder hasn’t headlined a ppv for reason, he isn’t very popular. If he could sell 300-400k right now he would. If he could do that routinely PBC and showtime would do it in heart beat. Those three undercard slots on each card would be gold in helping to keep pbc fighters active. He isn’t ppv because no would would buy. His fight vs Ortiz is 100k tops. Thurman vs garcia wouldn’t have topped ggg-jacobs.

It takes a lot to be a ppv Star and name me one American ppv star besides floyd and Oscar and Oscar is because he had the Latino base...you have to go back to evander and Tyson...

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doesnt matter. Still not a big fight in the USA. Boxing is still a nitche sport it would get extra coverage but it’s not a fight of particular interest to us Hispanics. And putting leo Santa Cruz on the undercard like Haymon always thinks makes a difference won’t make one.

Wilder hasn’t headlined a ppv for reason, he isn’t very popular. If he could sell 300-400k right now he would. If he could do that routinely PBC and showtime would do it in heart beat. Those three undercard slots on each card would be gold in helping to keep pbc fighters active. He isn’t ppv because no would would buy. His fight vs Ortiz is 100k tops. Thurman vs garcia wouldn’t have topped ggg-jacobs.

It takes a lot to be a ppv Star and name me one American ppv star besides floyd and Oscar and Oscar is because he had the Latino base...you have to go back to evander and Tyson...

I don't see any evidence above that Haymon loves ********. Where is your evidence?

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Wilder is a lot bigger then AJ over here that's for sure. His name is much more well known.

[Akutalee]

Wild mouth using AJ’s name to promote his fight lol

[Bonduu]

"Over here in America they don't even know his name. They just know him as a big guy from England. That's fact."

Oxymoron at its finest!

[Elroy The Great]

im sure this has been said, aj has a bigger backing than wilder does.