Adonis Stevenson VS Badou Jack is official for May

[boliodogs]

Why isnt anybody talking about this?

Stevenson beats Jack’s ordinary ass.

Thanks for the news. That is a good title defense for Stevenson and I agree Stevenson will win by KO of course.

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I don't like Stevenson, but one thing I notice about him is that he picks his opponents very carefully

Then why did he agree to the Kovalev fight, only for Kovalev to vacate and duck?

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Then why did he agree to the Kovalev fight, only for Kovalev to vacate and duck?

What belt did Kovalev vacate? As I recall, it was Stevenson who ran to Showtime when HBO started pushing for them to fight.

[R_Walken]

I agree about Stevenson. He is number one until somebody knocks him off plain and simple.

I just don’t think much of Jack but lot of people are hyping this guy so I’m looking forward to see what he is really made of.

Fair enough

But I honestly don't see the hype on here for Jack if anything I see more people critical him for getting KOd in his and his association to Mayweather and don't want to give him his credit

With the exception of the Cleverly fight he doesnt look dominant but he does enough to get the W and Dirrel, Groves , Degeale were all prime in the top 5 in the division at the time and either current Champ me or Future Champs to me that's impressive.

I just think his resume the last 3 years is f.ucking legit and he earned the #1 spot at 168 by fighting and beating the best in his division and now he's fighting the #1 at 175 which to me makes it a great fight

But after this fight you can't talk sh.it about the winner whether it's Adonis or Jack

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What belt did Kovalev vacate?

Pascal was awarded the WBC diamond belt when he beat Bute. The WBC diamond belt is supposed to be an honorary award for a significant non-title fight. Pascal & Bute were two of the biggest stars in the history of Canadian boxing and to commemorate the historic event, the winner was given the diamond belt.

Kovalev then made a series of bizarre requests. He asked that Pascal be allowed to "defend" the honorary award against him. He asked that the fight be considered a final eliminator even though Kovalev was already the world champion of other organizations. He also asked that if he won, even though a WBC mandatory would only be entitled to 30% of a purse bid, that he be given a 50/50 split against Stevenson.

The WBC and Stevenson said yes to everything. Sure enough, Kovalev beat Pascal, "won" the diamond title, became Stevenson's mandatory, with a 50/50 split of the purse.

That fight with Pascal was the last on Kovalev's HBO deal. So not only Kovalev given EVERYTHING he wanted, 50/50 split, diamond title, mandatory position, etc, but he was also a television free agent.

The WBC ordered a purse bid for the fight and Stevenson said no problem.

Faced now with actually having to get into the ring with Stevenson instead of just running his mouth, Kovalev refused to fight Stevenson, vacated his diamond title, and ducked the purse bid.

it was Stevenson who ran to Showtime when HBO started pushing for them to fight.

That's what the HBO propaganda machine would want you to believe, but the truth is that Stevenson was a restricted free agent and was obligated to seek an offer and then bring it to HBO for them to match. All HBO had to do was kick in 50k and Kovalev vs. Stevenson was guaranteed.

HBO didn't want to do it though because if Stevenson won, then he'd be a 100% unrestricted free agent, Kovalev would be worthless, and HBO would risk losing control of the division.

So HBO hatched a plan to reject the Kovalev/Stevenson fight and instead spend the money to get Hopkins to jump sides. This way, Kovalev gets an easier opponent and Showtime is stuck having paid for Stevenson, but with no big name for Stevenson to fight.

It was clever, but it ultimately backfired because now Kovalev has lost twice, Stevenson is still on top, and Andre Ward is retired.

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Pascal was awarded the WBC diamond belt when he beat Bute. The WBC diamond belt is supposed to be an honorary award for a significant non-title fight. Pascal & Bute were two of the biggest stars in the history of Canadian boxing and to commemorate the historic event, the winner was given the diamond belt.

Kovalev then made a series of bizarre requests. He asked that Pascal be allowed to "defend" the honorary award against him. He asked that the fight be considered a final eliminator even though Kovalev was already the world champion of other organizations. He also asked that if he won, even though a WBC mandatory would only be entitled to 30% of a purse bid, that he be given a 50/50 split against Stevenson.

The WBC and Stevenson said yes to everything. Sure enough, Kovalev beat Pascal, "won" the diamond title, became Stevenson's mandatory, with a 50/50 split of the purse.

That fight with Pascal was the last on Kovalev's HBO deal. So not only Kovalev given EVERYTHING he wanted, 50/50 split, diamond title, mandatory position, etc, but he was also a television free agent.

The WBC ordered a purse bid for the fight and Stevenson said no problem.

Faced now with actually having to get into the ring with Stevenson instead of just running his mouth, Kovalev refused to fight Stevenson, vacated his diamond title, and ducked the purse bid.





That's what the HBO propaganda machine would want you to believe, but the truth is that Stevenson was a restricted free agent and was obligated to seek an offer and then bring it to HBO for them to match. All HBO had to do was kick in 50k and Kovalev vs. Stevenson was guaranteed.

HBO didn't want to do it though because if Stevenson won, then he'd be a 100% unrestricted free agent, Kovalev would be worthless, and HBO would risk losing control of the division.

So HBO hatched a plan to reject the Kovalev/Stevenson fight and instead spend the money to get Hopkins to jump sides. This way, Kovalev gets an easier opponent and Showtime is stuck having paid for Stevenson, but with no big name for Stevenson to fight.

It was clever, but it ultimately backfired because now Kovalev has lost twice, Stevenson is still on top, and Andre Ward is retired.

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When faced with indisputable fact, all you can muster is laughing emojis? That doesn't feel cowardly to you? You asked a question and I gave you the answer. Just because it turns out that the truth isn't what you thought it was doesn't mean the truth should be dismissed.

[Bjl12]

Wilder is worse than a one trick pony yet he gets the job done.

Sometimes one exceptional weapon can take your far.

Stevenson has a left hand but he always lands and when it does, it’s lights out.

True, but Wilder has 0 wins over relevant competition. It's the same as Golovkin up until Jacobs. Beat a bunch of part-time fighters and then looked extremely normal against full-time guys in Danny and Canelo. Not impressive.

Wilder is horrible and I'm American. Obviously not horrible, but a very ordinary fighter. He loses to PEDvetkin, Joshua, Andre Ward, Fury, etc.

I won't give him credit for dominating/KO'ing a 57 year old Luis Ortiz. Sorry :/

Stevenson had numerous chances to fight many good fighters and kept balking. I don't rate him really at all. He's a top 5 LHW, but he's like Calzaghe in the sense he's fought nobody.

[Floyd is TBE]

Jack is a very underrated fighter and I expect him to put an end to Stevenson holding 175 hostage.

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Wilder has 0 wins over relevant competition.

There are plenty of legitimate reasons to criticize Wilder's resume, so why do you have to resort to lying? Stiverne was the consensus #2 fighter in the world when Wilder shut him out. Why lie and rewrite history? Why not just present an honest argument and say that Wilder only has one win over a top fighter?

He loses to PEDvetkin

Then why did Povetkin cheat so many times? If Povetkin was confident he could beat Wilder without cheating, why didn't he try?

I won't give him credit for dominating/KO'ing a 57 year old Luis Ortiz. Sorry :/

Isn't it possible you're just an extremely negative person? Ortiz is 38. His amateur history makes it pretty clear his age is accurate. You lie about your age if you start boxing because you want to face easier fighters. Starting so late like he did, there would be no advantage to lying about your age. You're buying into an urban myth that has no supporting evidence.

Further, Ortiz is considered the #3 heavyweight in the world by many experts and at worst is #4. He's certainly the most highly regarded guy without a belt and the other two champions are already fighting each other.

Stevenson had numerous chances to fight many good fighters and kept balking.

This is another lie. When the WBC ordered Stevenson and Kovalev to unify, Stevenson said yes. Kovalev said no and vacated.