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Pacquiao has ZERO stoppages since declining dec 2009 OST random blood test.

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  • #51
    Its su****ious but i think there are alot of factors to it as well though. Look at his impressive run of ko's/tkos:

    David Diaz- **** opponent with terrible defense
    Oscar de la hoya- badly drained and way past his prime
    Ricky Hatton- already been tko'd by floyd, always had questionable defense and chin
    Miguel Cotto- slightly drained, had gotten battered by margarito the year before, always had questionable chin and defense

    All of those fighters were in prime position for manny to knock them out and he did.

    Now look at the fighters he didnt ko/tko:

    Joshua Clottey- Mucher bigger fighter with great chin and defense
    Antonio Margarito- Much bigger fighter with great chin (easily could have been a tko)
    Shane Mosley- Known for having good chin (tried to quit but naz didnt let him, easily could have been tko)
    Juan Manuel Marquez- great boxer with insane recovery abilities, never been ko'd/tkod (almost ko'd in their 4th fight)
    Tim Bradley- top boxer with insane recovery abilities, never been ko'd/tkod
    Brandon Rios- had a very solid chin, manny boxed him more (coming off brutal ko loss to marquez yet fight still easily couldve been stopped)
    Chris algieri- got knocked down 6 damn times (easily couldve been a tko)
    Floyd Mayweather- atg boxer with great defense and chin, never been kod/tkod
    Jessie Vargas- tough bigger fighter, never been ko'd/tko'd. At this point manny was way passed his best
    Jeff Horn- tough bigger fighter, (easily couldve been a tko in the 9th round) At this point manny was way passed his best

    Alot of reasons why he didnt get kos/tkos anymore but generally its because he either fought bigger or more durable opponents. Some of those fights he easily couldve been awarded with stoppage wins with a different ref. Some of those fights he was way past his best too
    Last edited by Dodger07; 01-30-2018, 12:15 PM.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by revelated View Post
      Woulda/Coulda/Shoulda.

      "At the end of the day..."
      "No matter how...you....cut it, slice it or weigh it..."


      It should tell you his punching power is still there. I look further than just simply the end result in a fight. Could care less about that.

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      • #53
        To be fair, the Margarito and Rios fights should've been stopped. Margarito got beat so bad he looked Chinese when it was over.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by Dosumpthin View Post
          Don't you mean "his power carried up until stringent testing"?


          I mean why stop @ 140lbs? He technically already defied all odds coming from a flyweight thru 135lbs .... right?


          Wait......did he even "carry" his power in the first place????

          Where was it vs Morales? Oh yeah.....he was weakened by needles for random blood test.....

          Im confused.



          Either way, fact remains - ZERO stoppages since refusing OST and drawing skepticism and raising su****ions.


          Fact.
          Why didn't it carry up?

          Um, because the human body has limits?

          The dude was 31 when he got his last stoppage. That's not that bad for a guy who started out at 106 lbs.

          I mean, Floyd started at 130 and hasn't knocked anybody out in almost a decade either.

          His power at 147/154 was wayyy different than when he was a monster at 130/135.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by drew1830 View Post
            But despite not getting stoppages, he wrecked Cotto, Margarito, Algieri and, yes, Horn.

            The referee was going to stop the Horn fight because he was getting smashed.
            That's funny because the Aussie fight I saw Joe Plumber savaged that little Filipino

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            • #56
              Wow. Their god Mayweather is the Lance Armstrong of boxing, yet they keep fooling us it's this Asian guy that is cheating.

              These are evil people. These fans of Roidweather.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
                Mayweather was cruising. It was one of his easiest fights ever. Pacquiao just didn't want to take a risk to win. A truly pathetic performance from Pacquiao. I have more respect for guys like Hatton who went out on his shield trying.
                If you like hugging and running away in your boxing fights it was a fight for you.

                I prefer to see the art of pugilism.

                Shame the ref never clamped down on the holding tactics.


                LMAO you claim Pacquiao was pathetic for not being attacking enough, guess you thought all Floyd's fights were pathetic, I agree with you.


                Are you a coward like Floyd?

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by mcdonalds View Post
                  and he still dominated PEDQUIAO aka PEDMAN aka #48

                  LMFAO
                  Yeah landing 81 power punches in a 12 round fight is dominating. What a fool.

                  Most of them touch punches.

                  Margarito landed more on Pacquiao than that.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
                    Yeah landing 81 power punches in a 12 round fight is dominating. What a fool.

                    Most of them touch punches.

                    Margarito landed more on Pacquiao than that.
                    #48 lost. It's time for you to stop crying about your idol's shltty performance. Even Larry Merchant, who hates Mayweather, said Pacquiao let everyone down

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by DuckAdonis View Post
                      It should tell you his punching power is still there. I look further than just simply the end result in a fight. Could care less about that.
                      All that matters is the outcome. It's all people will talk about 10 years from now.

                      Nobody cares about Tyson embarrassing Reggie Gross. It's all about Tyson getting sparked by a bum in Buster Douglas and essentially quitting against a bum in Kevin McBride.

                      Nobody cares about Roy Jones embarrassing James Toney. It's all about Jones getting brutally sparked by Tarver.

                      Nobody cares about Manny's two questionable wins over Marquez. All people remember is him face down - asleep - and Marquez jumping for joy.

                      Nobody cares about Hatton's dominant performance against Kostya Tszyu. All people remember is him running into the buckle against Floyd and "right hook, roll under..." against Manny.

                      Nobody cares about Ortiz's dominant victory over Berto. All people remember is him quitting, including getting knocked out by a brittle-handed Floyd.

                      Nobody cares about Golota's stoppage of Danell Nickelson. All people remember is his low blows on Bowe and quitting against Tyson while Al Certo is screaming at him.

                      Outcome's all that matters, especially when the outcome is emotionally triggering.
                      Last edited by Combat Talk Radio; 01-30-2018, 07:42 PM.

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