Excuses for when golovkin loses thread

[stealthradon]

Kassim Ouma was fighting in a different country, the jet lag excuse doesn't apply to him too? It goes both ways.

ggg struggled with Ouma because he was only 5 years pro at 30 years old. Fighters progress differently, age doesn't=fighter's prime especially when that fighter is so inexperienced as ggg was. 35 year old ggg has seen more pro styles, has adapted better to the pro game and would beat Ouma more convincingly.

"Struggled".
Was ahead on all scorecards.

[SN!PER]

His wannabe Mexican style no match for a true Mexican.

[siablo14]

GGG won the first fight, though.

[Chrismart]

I must admit, i remember these exact same threads before the first fight.
Then after the fight they threads were buried. The guys who were making these threads/post, were absolutely posting in a giddy/happy/relived style because Canelo was given a draw that they didn't see coming once the final bell had sounded.

Just let the fight play out. There's not long to go now anyway.

[Thraxox]

Ridiculous post.

Prime age doesn't change bruh.

A guy couldn't take up the sport of boxing at 49 and be "in his prime" because he hasn't had any fights



Yeah, that tends to happen in every sport when guys are in their mid '30s



Those guys are anomalies and only Hopkins you could argue was at his best or near his best after his mid '30s.

And Tom Brady is not at his absolute prime right now. He is in decline.

Virtually all of those athletes you named were in decline in their mid 30s.

Unless you're on performing enhancing drugs, then you will almost start to decline in your early to mid 30s.

Not just in sports, but in life. Virtually every human being walking the earth starts to feel the signs of age in their mid 30s. I don't know why all of a sudden boxing fans act like guys should be just as physically fit at 35 as they are at 29.

What was Muhammad Ali like at 35? Sugar Ray Robinson? Joe Louis?

Seriously, WTF is wrong with boxing fans today.

[bigjavi973]

someone somewhere will blame trump

remember GGG taking a pic with him lol

[The D3vil]

Prime age and prime as a boxer are NOT the same thing:

Age 30 ggg was struggling against Ouma.
Age 28 Toney arguably lost to Dave Tiberi.
Age 34 RJJ moved up to HW and schooled Ruiz only slowing down after he dropped weight.
Age 29 Lewis was KO'd by McCall.
Age 29 Wladimir got dropped 3x against Sam Peter
Age 26 Andre Ward struggled with Bika
Age 31 Calzaghe dropped hard by Mitchell
Age 29 Hopkins struggled and got dropped by Mercado
Age 25 Kovalev dropped hard by Boone
Age 33 Stevenson KO'd by Boone
Age 21 Ward dropped hard by Boone
Age 25 Loma lost to Salido
Age 34 Rigo dropped by Hamagasa
Age 26 Tua arguably lost to Jeff Wooden

etc. etc. etc.

I can keep going and make a looooong list of fighters in their "prime" years losing or showing flaws they'd later correct in their careers due to experience.

Again, you're cherry picking anomalies as opposed to looking at the hundreds of thousands of athletes in every sport who start declining in their early 30s.

Hell, Mike Tyson was an all-time great at 21, does that mean that age 21 is most people's peak?

No,

mid-late 20s is virtually everybody's athletic peak.

There are exceptions (usually involving drugs of some sort), but usually the rules are set.

"A boxer is at his best when he is at his athletic peak + sufficiently experienced."

Yes and that's where ggg is at. You have to believe a 35 year old ggg wouldn't do better than Ouma than the 30 year old version did. It's really that simple.

The evidence is stacked, boxers throughout history have repeatedly shown flaws in their physical prime years due to inexperience.

Bull****.

GGG had hundreds of amateur fights before he turned pro and now has almost 40 in the ring.

He will be 36 years old in February.

He's past his prime

History says he is.

Science says he is.

Let it go.

Stop cherry picking extraordinary individuals and look at the history of sports, genius. Virtually nobody is in their prime in any sport at 36.

[Boxing Scene]

Ok let's get the excuses out of the way guys

How about he really won just like last time. Thread ****ing fail.

[Madison Boxing]

The judges robbed him again, and that's reality not an excuse.

[turnedup]

That handful I listed is off the top of my head and they're literally from the same era, Toney, RJJ, Hopkins were in the same divisions too lmao.

You live in a fantasy world where fighters are shot by age 35. Not all fighters progress at the same rate because not all of them have the same pro experience.

Younger, primarily inexperienced fighters, which ggg is, have repeatedly shown flaws early in their careers throughout boxing's history.

I listed multiple examples of fighters in their "primes" struggling against guys according to you, they shouldn't.

If I went throughout boxing's history you'd see it's WAY more common than you believe. Even my boy Andre Ward had a tough fight with Sakio Bika in 2010 in his "prime" years because of his inexperience. Stevenson, Kovalev, Ward all got dropped by Boone in their 20's, again the years you're telling me they're at their peak as a fighter.

In order for you to believe what you do, then you'd have to believe a 35 year old ggg wouldn't beat a shot Ouma easier than the 30 year old version which struggled.
Context matters.

My man whatever boxing card you had you just lost, you've named a gang of PED users as "EXAMPLES" that boxers are ageless. My fantasy world is reality, I myself am seeing the physical changes because i'm in that age demographic. Matter of fact you didn't bother to actually go look at the science like I asked you to, actual people who study this shhh for a living. Not boxing homers who think their opinion is the almighty final word. Science my man, SCIENCE! It's why when you hit your 30's they start checking you for shhhhh they never had to check you for before, it's why when you hit your 40's they start checking you for more shhh they never had to check you for before. You want to talk about living in a fantasy world...you clearly are speaking for yourself. There isn't a single logical person who in their right mind thinks a fighter after 20 plus years of getting punched in the face is not shot in some way. Even in the soft azz NBA you got dudes on the very early side of 30 no longer capable of doing what they did a year or even two years before. In a soft non-contact sport like that. You try getting concussed endlessly for over 20 years and tell me just how healthy you are....yeah experience helps you when you are older but that does not mean you aren't shot.