Excuses for when golovkin loses thread

[Mr Objecitivity]

Save me that regurgitated crap, i've heard that over and over out of convenience. You guys name a handful of fighters in a sport that has seen tens of thousands of men take to it. Luis Ortiz...roided to his fking gills Ortiz...wow. Ask Sergio how fkd up his body was...Sergio by his own admission was fkd up physically for years. I'm not even going to get into a few of those other names..Povetkin jesus christ almighty, you went full grasp for straws with that one. Manu Ginobili and Tom Brady lmfao. Seriously LMFAO. Again tens of tens of thousands of men in those sports as well...HOW MANY OF THEM WERE ELITE at 40? Also you comparing basketball, one of the now softest sports in the planet is hilarious as fk. I'm sure the chances of going up for a layup and ending up with brain bleeding or even death are super high.

Here's the reality, a man reaches his physical peak between 26 and 30. This is scientific fact. Irrefutable scientific fact, can a few not be as affected? Sure, there are anomalies but the fact remains that when a very small percentile of humans can defy age the vast and i do MEAN VAST!! cannot without some enhancement help. Some can't even with enhancers. Don't take my word for it, in my original post I told you exactly how to go find scientific fact. So rather than replying to me, reply to the science and those facts with actual facts that destroy the evidence of science and not just regurgitated opinion.

Exactly! Just because a boxer has some success here and there at an older age does not at all mean that the said boxer isn't somehow past his physical / athletic peak. That's exactly what that poster's argument is based on.

If we compare the absolute best vs the absolute best, then that's when age really becomes a factor. The absolute best boxer at age 39 is most likely going to lose to the absolute best boxer at age 28. A boxer at age 39 might be better relative to other boxers that are also aged 39. Maybe because with both of their athletic abilities declined, one of those boxers have better fundamentals and technical ability than the other. However, a 28 year old boxer with solid fundamentals and in his athletic prime is going to most likely defeat a 39 year old boxer with solid fundamentals who is past his prime. that's just common sense! Anyone who thinks age doesn't effect a boxer's abilities is in denial of history / facts.

[TheSlickster]

No excuses, GGG had just lost to the better man

[turnedup]

Exactly! Just because a boxer has some success here and there at an older age does not at all mean that the said boxer isn't somehow past his physical / athletic peak. That's exactly what that poster's argument is based on.

If we compare the absolute best vs the absolute best, then that's when age really becomes a factor. The absolute best boxer at age 39 is most likely going to lose to the absolute best boxer at age 28. A boxer at age 39 might be better relative to other boxers that are also aged 39. Maybe because with both of their athletic abilities declined, one of those boxers have better fundamentals and technical ability than the other. However, a 28 year old boxer with solid fundamentals and in his athletic prime is going to most likely defeat a 39 year old boxer with solid fundamentals who is past his prime. that's just common sense! Anyone who thinks age doesn't effect a boxer's abilities is in denial of history / facts.

Dude hatred/dislike/jealousy has a way of clouding people's judgement. The only way I can even logically see a mofo really believing age is not a factor is if:

• They are a young dude who thinks they'll be immortal and the same forever...we all kinda did
• Mofo's who came into the sport and only really saw the last like 10 years of Floyd career and then use that as the benchmark for everyone else.

The fact this dude even mentioned Hopkins is hilarious. I love Bernard but Bernard was not good later in life. He beat some questionable fighters and got taken to task by Dawson. Floyd in his later 30s needed to take to alternative things to help his body like freezing his b@lls off in cryo-treatments and this is a guy who took more than his fair share of breaks from the sport and took the least amount of punishment among active fighters. The body has a limit.

[The D3vil]

They're not anomalies and they all got better in their mid 30's, all of them. It's becoming more and more common, it's 2018 not the 1970's, science has come a looong way.

Ali was already showing signs of Parkinson's disease by age 40, that's a shot fighter, not ggg.

Age 30 ggg was struggling against Ouma.
Age 28 Toney arguably lost to Dave Tiberi.
Age 34 RJJ moved up to HW and schooled Ruiz only slowing down after he dropped weight.
Age 29 Lewis was KO'd by McCall.
Age 29 Wladimir got dropped 3x against Sam Peter
etc.

You judge a fighter by how they look, the condition they're in, 35 isn't as old as you people make it out to be when ggg is at the height of his experience. Back in the day most guys never took care of their bodies and broke down significantly faster.

Save me that regurgitated crap, i've heard that over and over out of convenience. You guys name a handful of fighters in a sport that has seen tens of thousands of men take to it. Luis Ortiz...roided to his fking gills Ortiz...wow. Ask Sergio how fkd up his body was...Sergio by his own admission was fkd up physically for years. I'm not even going to get into a few of those other names..Povetkin jesus christ almighty, you went full grasp for straws with that one. Manu Ginobili and Tom Brady lmfao. Seriously LMFAO. Again tens of tens of thousands of men in those sports as well...HOW MANY OF THEM WERE ELITE at 40? Also you comparing basketball, one of the now softest sports in the planet is hilarious as fk. I'm sure the chances of going up for a layup and ending up with brain bleeding or even death are super high.

Here's the reality, a man reaches his physical peak between 26 and 30. This is scientific fact. Irrefutable scientific fact, can a few not be as affected? Sure, there are anomalies but the fact remains that when a very small percentile of humans can defy age the vast and i do MEAN VAST!! cannot without some enhancement help. Some can't even with enhancers. Don't take my word for it, in my original post I told you exactly how to go find scientific fact. So rather than replying to me, reply to the science and those facts with actual facts that destroy the evidence of science and not just regurgitated opinion.

THIS.

I love how dudes are like seriously doubting human's prime age, as if it isn't scientific.

For Athletes’ Peak Performance, Age Is Everything


Athletic performance obviously decreases as people get older and their bodies wear down physically, but new data compiled by French researchers sheds new light on exactly when these declines might start showing up, at least in some sporting disciplines.

The careers of more than 1,150 swimmers and track-and-field athletes, as well as the accomplishments of nearly a hundred chess grandmasters, were scrutinized based on the event they were participating in, as well as their age and how old they were when they established any world records. In all, more than 11,200 performances among these athletes made it into the data set, and the results confirm that there reaches an age — a physiological tipping point, if you will — when athletes start to experience an irreversible downturn in their abilities.

Generally speaking, athletes start to see physical declines at age 26, give or take. (This would seem in line with the long-standing notion in baseball that players tend to hit their peak anywhere from ages 27 to 30.) For swimmers, the news is more sobering, as the mean peak age is 21. For chess grandmasters, participating in an activity that relies more than mental acuity and sharpness rather than brute, acquired physicality, the peak age is closer to 31.4.

For setting world records in a given athletic discipline, the mean age is 26.1, so all you sports-minded thirty-somethings hoping to still see your name published in the Guinness Book may have already missed your mark.

https://www.wired.com/2011/07/athletes-peak-age/

[SAINTSTEVE]

32 years, 186 days
How old Hopkins was when he peaked against Glen Johnson. I don't believe boxers peak at age 26 because of the learning curve whereas an NFL running back is on the way out at 32.

[Real King Kong]

Haters still salivating at the thought of ggg losing. It's a shame the excuse of him being past his prime is valid. even those who celebrate his loss the most and try to convince everyone he's still prime know he isn't.

[KillaCamNZ]

All of this, and Canelo will still run like a b*tch. Again.

Every fight, the desperation level of GGG haters rise. It's at the point where they NEED him to lose, just to give their life some sense of worth.

[hugh grant]

If nelo wins legit this time its one all.
Time for a decider in 3rd fight.

[Cutthroat]

Save me that regurgitated crap, i've heard that over and over out of convenience. You guys name a handful of fighters in a sport that has seen tens of thousands of men take to it. Luis Ortiz...roided to his fking gills Ortiz...wow. Ask Sergio how fkd up his body was...Sergio by his own admission was fkd up physically for years. I'm not even going to get into a few of those other names..Povetkin jesus christ almighty, you went full grasp for straws with that one. Manu Ginobili and Tom Brady lmfao. Seriously LMFAO. Again tens of tens of thousands of men in those sports as well...HOW MANY OF THEM WERE ELITE at 40? Also you comparing basketball, one of the now softest sports in the planet is hilarious as fk. I'm sure the chances of going up for a layup and ending up with brain bleeding or even death are super high.

Here's the reality, a man reaches his physical peak between 26 and 30. This is scientific fact. Irrefutable scientific fact, can a few not be as affected? Sure, there are anomalies but the fact remains that when a very small percentile of humans can defy age the vast and i do MEAN VAST!! cannot without some enhancement help. Some can't even with enhancers. Don't take my word for it, in my original post I told you exactly how to go find scientific fact. So rather than replying to me, reply to the science and those facts with actual facts that destroy the evidence of science and not just regurgitated opinion.

That handful I listed is off the top of my head and they're literally from the same era, Toney, RJJ, Hopkins were in the same divisions too lmao.

You live in a fantasy world where fighters are shot by age 35. Not all fighters progress at the same rate because not all of them have the same pro experience.

Younger, primarily inexperienced fighters, which ggg is, have repeatedly shown flaws early in their careers throughout boxing's history.

I listed multiple examples of fighters in their "primes" struggling against guys according to you, they shouldn't.

If I went throughout boxing's history you'd see it's WAY more common than you believe. Even my boy Andre Ward had a tough fight with Sakio Bika in 2010 in his "prime" years because of his inexperience. Stevenson, Kovalev, Ward all got dropped by Boone in their 20's, again the years you're telling me they're at their peak as a fighter.

In order for you to believe what you do, then you'd have to believe a 35 year old ggg wouldn't beat a shot Ouma easier than the 30 year old version which struggled.
Context matters.

[Cutthroat]

THIS.

I love how dudes are like seriously doubting human's prime age, as if it isn't scientific.



https://www.wired.com/2011/07/athletes-peak-age/

Prime age and prime as a boxer are NOT the same thing:

Age 30 ggg was struggling against Ouma.
Age 28 Toney arguably lost to Dave Tiberi.
Age 34 RJJ moved up to HW and schooled Ruiz only slowing down after he dropped weight.
Age 29 Lewis was KO'd by McCall.
Age 29 Wladimir got dropped 3x against Sam Peter
Age 26 Andre Ward struggled with Bika
Age 31 Calzaghe dropped hard by Mitchell
Age 29 Hopkins struggled and got dropped by Mercado
Age 25 Kovalev dropped hard by Boone
Age 33 Stevenson KO'd by Boone
Age 21 Ward dropped hard by Boone
Age 25 Loma lost to Salido
Age 34 Rigo dropped by Hamagasa
Age 26 Tua arguably lost to Jeff Wooden

etc. etc. etc.

I can keep going and make a looooong list of fighters in their "prime" years losing or showing flaws they'd later correct in their careers due to experience.