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  • Cutthroat
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    #81
    Originally posted by The D3vil
    Dude, Muhammad Ali was losing to Leon Spinks at 35

    Sugar Ray Robinson was losing to Carmen Basillio and Gene Fullmer at 35

    Sugar Ray Leonard was losing to Terry Norris at 35

    Marvin Hagler was retired by 33

    Oscar De La Hoya was getting embarrassed by a much smaller Manny Pacquiao at 35

    Tito Trinidad was getting beat down by a shot Roy Jones at 35

    Larry Holmes was losing to Michael Spinks at 35.

    So, PLEASE tell me how EVERYBODY's so much better at 35, than they were at 28

    ****ing ridiculous

    Ali was showing signs of brain damage by 40
    SRR had 200 pro fights and fought in the 50's lmao
    Hagler had 60 pro fights and fought significantly better competition
    Trinidad, DLH, and Holmes did not take care of their bodies, they all got fat.
    etc. none of these fighters are similar to ggg.


    2 guys you're calling anomalies took the SAME career path as ggg and that's hiring a trainer.

    Golovkin didn't hired Sanchez until 2010. Lewis hired Steward in '94 after losing to McCall and Wlad hired Steward in 2005 after losing to Brewster.

    It takes YEARS of training from that trainer and opponents to learn from, in order to be your best as a fighter.

    By 2011 ggg was still struggling with Ouma as a 30 year old because Sanchez' teachings were so new to him.

    Pre and post Sanchez ggg is a completely different fighter. He was not in his prime in his 20's because he had no Sanchez.

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    • Elroy The Great
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      #82
      3g would have been able to fight well into his 60's had his comp levels not increase.

      fought 2 legit guys and hes all of a sudden ''old''.

      what hagler and other ATG mw's would have done to those on 3g's resume

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      • stealthradon
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        #83
        Originally posted by Cutthroat
        Ali was showing signs of brain damage by 40
        SRR had 200 pro fights and fought in the 50's lmao
        Hagler had 60 pro fights and fought significantly better competition
        Trinidad, DLH, and Holmes did not take care of their bodies, they all got fat.
        etc. none of these fighters are similar to ggg.


        2 guys you're calling anomalies took the SAME career path as ggg and that's hiring a trainer.

        Golovkin didn't hired Sanchez until 2010. Lewis hired Steward in '94 after losing to McCall and Wlad hired Steward in 2005 after losing to Brewster.

        It takes YEARS of training from that trainer and opponents to learn from, in order to be your best as a fighter.

        By 2011 ggg was still struggling with Ouma as a 30 year old because Sanchez' teachings were so new to him.

        Pre and post Sanchez ggg is a completely different fighter. He was not in his prime in his 20's because he had no Sanchez.
        So you are struggling if you are ahead on all scorecards?

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          #84
          Originally posted by Elroy The Great
          3g would have been able to fight well into his 60's had his comp levels not increase.

          fought 2 legit guys and hes all of a sudden ''old''.

          what hagler and other ATG mw's would have done to those on 3g's resume
          Hagler who retired at 34?

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            #85
            Originally posted by stealthradon
            Hagler who retired at 34?
            3g would have been beaten into retirement if he fought legit comp.

            PRIOR to jacobs, 3g was fresh and full of life

            NOW LOOK AT HIM

            ready for a wheelchair.

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              #86
              Originally posted by Elroy The Great
              3g would have been beaten into retirement if he fought legit comp.

              PRIOR to jacobs, 3g was fresh and full of life

              NOW LOOK AT HIM

              ready for a wheelchair.
              Yet everyone who isn't on Canelo's nutsack believe he beat Canelo in the first match. What does that say about Canelo?

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                #87
                Originally posted by stealthradon
                Yet everyone who isn't on Canelo's nutsack believe he beat Canelo in the first match. What does that say about Canelo?
                why is considered so old, doe

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Elroy The Great
                  why is considered so old, doe
                  35 may not quite be considered ready for the knackers' yard but it's irrational to argue that there won't be some decline by then. In boxing that 1% or 2% at the margin is often what wins or loses fights, especially when you're stepping up the competition.

                  Was GGG overated? Well I guess that depends how highly you rated him in the first place.. overated by some, underated by others I guess.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Koba-Grozny
                    35 may not quite be considered ready for the knackers' yard but it's irrational to argue that there won't be some decline by then. In boxing that 1% or 2% at the margin is often what wins or loses fights, especially when you're stepping up the competition.

                    Was GGG overated? Well I guess that depends how highly you rated him in the first place.. overated by some, underated by others I guess.
                    its all in the timing.
                    his jab is legit and he comes to fight.

                    i dont blame him for his piss poor line up prior to dj but im not going to him either. hes not as good as his loony fans think he is.

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                    • TJ highway
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by sweeterscience
                      Adalaide Byrd got hold of an eraser, a pencil and had a magician's string of handkerchiefs soaked in chloroform up her sleeve...knocked out the judges with the gas and got her revenge.
                      This is a silly thread. "Excuses for when Golovkin loses!"


                      He's undefeated? Total fights 38, Wins 37, Wins 33 by KO, Losses big fat Zero.

                      Canelo lost to Floyd and had two draws.

                      Adalaide "I need new glasses" Byrd only gave GGG two rounds?

                      I guess Canelo gets style points for running away.


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