Excuses for when golovkin loses thread

[dranoel]

Canelo about to be out hustled once again by an old dude.

[Derranged]

The irony of this thread is laughable....

[GrandmasterWang]

Oscar paid him off.

Hopkins paid him off to keep his MW record.

[COVID-19]

The judges were paid off.

[The D3vil]

Canelo's been a pro longer than GGG has and GGG's had what, 2 tough fights?

The age excuse doesn't fly with me.

Ridiculous post.

Prime age doesn't change bruh.

A guy couldn't take up the sport of boxing at 49 and be "in his prime" because he hasn't had any fights

past his prime.. lol.

funny how as soon as the level of competition went up overnight he became past his prime

ggg diehard supporters are as delusional as tyson fans. these mofos will never ever give credit to whoever beats their guy.

Yeah, that tends to happen in every sport when guys are in their mid '30s

Sergio Martinez, Bernard Hopkins, Wladimir Klitschko, Luis Ortiz, Povetkin, Glen Johnson, Mansour, Hopkins, James Toney, Kovalev, Vitali, just how many examples do you want of boxers performing well into their 30's and 40's?

Age doesn't tell you if a guy is a shot fighter or athlete, not all athletes age the same especially in boxing. Experience actually matters in boxing, you do not need to be at your physical peak to be your best as a fighter and that's been proven time and time again.

Right now we have a 40 year old QB starting in the Superbowl, last year he won it with an incredible come back. According to you this should not be possible.

Even NBA players like 40 year old Manu Ginobili (one of the most injured NBA players of all time nicknamed "the bruise") is still outplaying a lot of guys in the NBA, same with 36 year old Pau Gasol, even 35 year old Tony Parker is having his best season in years.

Those guys are anomalies and only Hopkins you could argue was at his best or near his best after his mid '30s.

And Tom Brady is not at his absolute prime right now. He is in decline.

Virtually all of those athletes you named were in decline in their mid 30s.

Unless you're on performing enhancing drugs, then you will almost start to decline in your early to mid 30s.

Not just in sports, but in life. Virtually every human being walking the earth starts to feel the signs of age in their mid 30s. I don't know why all of a sudden boxing fans act like guys should be just as physically fit at 35 as they are at 29.

What was Muhammad Ali like at 35? Sugar Ray Robinson? Joe Louis?

[Chuckguy]

-too old
-canelo made him wait too long before finalizing the rematch
-some convoluted sense of a decked stacked against golovkin
-"golovkin knew he couldnt win on cards so he had to try to knock canelo out"
-golovkins heart wasnt really in it anymore since he was "robbed" and just wanted to cash out

im probably missing about 10 other possibilities the most delusional fanbase in boxing could come up with

Can you at least admit that canelo has the judges or a judge in his pocket

[AKAcronym]

Ridiculous post.

Prime age doesn't change bruh.

A guy couldn't take up the sport of boxing at 49 and be "in his prime" because he hasn't had any fights



Yeah, that tends to happen in every sport when guys are in their mid '30s



Those guys are anomalies and only Hopkins you could argue was at his best or near his best after his mid '30s.

And Tom Brady is not at his absolute prime right now. He is in decline.

Virtually all of those athletes you named were in decline in their mid 30s.

Unless you're on performing enhancing drugs, then you will almost start to decline in your early to mid 30s.

Not just in sports, but in life. Virtually every human being walking the earth starts to feel the signs of age in their mid 30s. I don't know why all of a sudden boxing fans act like guys should be just as physically fit at 35 as they are at 29.

What was Muhammad Ali like at 35? Sugar Ray Robinson? Joe Louis?

Well he did start running start running out of names when he put Hopkins twice...

[Cutthroat]

Those guys are anomalies and only Hopkins you could argue was at his best or near his best after his mid '30s.

And Tom Brady is not at his absolute prime right now. He is in decline.

Virtually all of those athletes you named were in decline in their mid 30s.

Unless you're on performing enhancing drugs, then you will almost start to decline in your early to mid 30s.

Not just in sports, but in life. Virtually every human being walking the earth starts to feel the signs of age in their mid 30s. I don't know why all of a sudden boxing fans act like guys should be just as physically fit at 35 as they are at 29.

What was Muhammad Ali like at 35? Sugar Ray Robinson? Joe Louis?

They're not anomalies and they all got better in their mid 30's, all of them. It's becoming more and more common, it's 2018 not the 1970's, science has come a looong way.

Ali was already showing signs of Parkinson's disease by age 40, that's a shot fighter, not ggg.

Age 30 ggg was struggling against Ouma.
Age 28 Toney arguably lost to Dave Tiberi.
Age 34 RJJ moved up to HW and schooled Ruiz only slowing down after he dropped weight.
Age 29 Lewis was KO'd by McCall.
Age 29 Wladimir got dropped 3x against Sam Peter
etc.

You judge a fighter by how they look, the condition they're in, 35 isn't as old as you people make it out to be when ggg is at the height of his experience. Back in the day most guys never took care of their bodies and broke down significantly faster.

[turnedup]

Sergio Martinez, Bernard Hopkins, Wladimir Klitschko, Luis Ortiz, Povetkin, Glen Johnson, Mansour, Hopkins, James Toney, Kovalev, Vitali, just how many examples do you want of boxers performing well into their 30's and 40's?

Age doesn't tell you if a guy is a shot fighter or athlete, not all athletes age the same especially in boxing. Experience actually matters in boxing, you do not need to be at your physical peak to be your best as a fighter and that's been proven time and time again.

Right now we have a 40 year old QB starting in the Superbowl, last year he won it with an incredible come back. According to you this should not be possible.

Even NBA players like 40 year old Manu Ginobili (one of the most injured NBA players of all time nicknamed "the bruise") is still outplaying a lot of guys in the NBA, same with 36 year old Pau Gasol, even 35 year old Tony Parker is having his best season in years.

Save me that regurgitated crap, i've heard that over and over out of convenience. You guys name a handful of fighters in a sport that has seen tens of thousands of men take to it. Luis Ortiz...roided to his fking gills Ortiz...wow. Ask Sergio how fkd up his body was...Sergio by his own admission was fkd up physically for years. I'm not even going to get into a few of those other names..Povetkin jesus christ almighty, you went full grasp for straws with that one. Manu Ginobili and Tom Brady lmfao. Seriously LMFAO. Again tens of tens of thousands of men in those sports as well...HOW MANY OF THEM WERE ELITE at 40? Also you comparing basketball, one of the now softest sports in the planet is hilarious as fk. I'm sure the chances of going up for a layup and ending up with brain bleeding or even death are super high.

Here's the reality, a man reaches his physical peak between 26 and 30. This is scientific fact. Irrefutable scientific fact, can a few not be as affected? Sure, there are anomalies but the fact remains that when a very small percentile of humans can defy age the vast and i do MEAN VAST!! cannot without some enhancement help. Some can't even with enhancers. Don't take my word for it, in my original post I told you exactly how to go find scientific fact. So rather than replying to me, reply to the science and those facts with actual facts that destroy the evidence of science and not just regurgitated opinion.

[Mr Objecitivity]

They're not anomalies and they all got better in their mid 30's, all of them. It's becoming more and more common, it's 2018 not the 1970's, science has come a looong way.

Ali was already showing signs of Parkinson's disease by age 40, that's a shot fighter, not ggg.

Age 30 ggg was struggling against Ouma.
Age 28 Toney arguably lost to Dave Tiberi.
Age 34 RJJ moved up to HW and schooled Ruiz only slowing down after he dropped weight.
Age 29 Lewis was KO'd by McCall.
Age 29 Wladimir got dropped 3x against Sam Peter
etc.

You judge a fighter by how they look, the condition they're in, 35 isn't as old as you people make it out to be when ggg is at the height of his experience. Back in the day most guys never took care of their bodies and broke down significantly faster.

At the highest level, small things count and mental sharpness / reflexes do decline after age 35. This affects a boxer's ability to land punches with good accuracy and good timing. It also effects a boxer's ability to defend against punches as well.

An inexperienced boxer has different set of problems than an experienced boxer who is past his athletic peak.

A boxer is at his best when he is at his athletic peak + sufficiently experienced.

And looks aren't as relevant as performance. And conditioning (especially in the heavyweight division) can be independent of physical aesthetics / appearance. A somewhat chubby boxer can be in better condition than a lean / muscular boxer with less fat. And historically speaking, no past heavyweight champion at age 39+ beat the number 1 future world heavyweight champion. So if a new heavyweight in 10 years time were to defeat Anthony Joshua after Joshua reaches age 39 and whilst they were only aged 27, it wouldn't really be that great of an accomplishment. Just like how Joshua beating a 41 year old Wladimir Klitschko was not that great of an accomplishment either.

Until there is enough evidence that boxers can perform at their absolute best close to age 40 against opponents that are 10 years younger, science hasn't advanced enough yet, nor have athletes advanced enough to be able to perform that well after age 35.