Comments Thread For: Roach: Joshua Has To Lose Some of That Muscle To Beat Wilder

[Lemonhead_Jeff]

Lennox Lewis was at least 225 when he started his , took him about 4 years to hit nearly 240 . Big tall guys are going to fill out ,they arent made to stay slim if they are weight training or genetically gain mass as they get older .

Lewis didnt even have bulk before turning pro , he was actually wider than Joshua and thicker too . Joshuas more sculpted ,hes also taller .

Razoz Ruddock was 200 pounds in 1985 , go take a look at his 240 pound hulking body in the Tyson fights in 1991 . And he was 6'3 ....

Frank Bruno 225 to 245 ?


Joshua is just singled out bc of social media .


I highly doubt hes on anything looking like that and not getting caught . Mike Tyson would be in the same boat today too and he was more proportioned than Joshua and P4P bigger at only 5'10 and 220 .

You cannot compare Lennox Lewis somewhat thick 250lb physique from his 30's to Joshua's current 28-year-old 250lb body-builder physique.
Also, in many of the examples you gave, the fighters were undefeated or on great runs when they were trim, but were suffering notable losses when they were bulkier. Mike Tyson had an unusual body type, and he carried a lot of his weight in his thick legs and lower body. Even Tyson began to lose as his weight increased. Similarly, David Tua was a beast at 228lbs, but was plodding and sluggish at 250+. Joshua looks better than all of those guys, but he is not immune to the increased fatigue that can come from carrying extra or unneeded weight. The larger the muscles, the more oxygen they'll require. There is no way around that. A bulky bodybuilder is simply not well-suited for sports that require agility & endurance. Just like a slender athletic person is not well-suited for playing linebacker.

[redmish]

Wilder hasn't fought anybody yet so how does roach know he'll be there for 12 rounds. Well find out when he fights a decent HW who fights back.

[juggernaut666]

You cannot compare Lennox Lewis somewhat thick 250lb physique from his 30's to Joshua's current 28-year-old 250lb body-builder physique.
Also, in many of the examples you gave, the fighters were undefeated or on great runs when they were trim, but were suffering notable losses when they were bulkier. Mike Tyson had an unusual body type, and he carried a lot of his weight in his thick legs and lower body. Even Tyson began to lose as his weight increased. Similarly, David Tua was a beast at 228lbs, but was plodding and sluggish at 250+. Joshua looks better than all of those guys, but he is not immune to the increased fatigue that can come from carrying extra or unneeded weight. The larger the muscles, the more oxygen they'll require. There is no way around that. A bulky bodybuilder is simply not well-suited for sports that require agility & endurance. Just like a slender athletic person is not well-suited for playing linebacker.

I didnt mention Lewis at 250 or what a body builder was suited for ,this is a boxing site . You have the wrong guy !

[mrbigshot]

He looked good against when weighing 250 but not good against Takam when 254

That 4lb really made a different!!

Perhaps it is more to do with motivation

[juggernaut666]

Takam pushed AJ to the limit? Th’f@ck fight was this dude watching?

......The crazy thing is Joshua has fought about 66 rounds and if you took Klitchko out of the equation hes only lost 2 rounds .

( The Klitchko fight is subjective scoring i gave him 5 rnds )


On top of that hes managed to have 20 stoppages and arguably was only behind in a fight once with limited round experience . Yet everyones got something to say and act like hes ready for some huge disaster ? How about the other champions weights and rounds lost ?

[juggernaut666]

He looked good against when weighing 250 but not good against Takam when 254

That 4lb really made a different!!

Perhaps it is more to do with motivation

Experiance !

[NickyB]

Wilder hasn't fought anybody yet so how does roach know he'll be there for 12 rounds. Well find out when he fights a decent HW who fights back.

We will find out. But roach is no dumb man. The people with the most boxing knowledge can see what Wilder brings. It's as easy as that.

[b00g13man]

He beats Wilder regardless imo, but I'd like to see him come in leaner.

[Madison Boxing]

even with the muscle hes a better fighter than wilder

[sotgoda]

It does ask questions about his ring IQ on top of that if aj wasn't picking up on the right hand early on why wasn't his trainer rob mccracken

It is the media and experts that hype up AJ. AJ throws more technical shots in terms of form and starts out rounds keeping his hands up. But since when do you win fights based on that? Ring IQ, timing, speed, etc., are other things that help in these matches. Also, AJ looks the part but since when does that win you fights? Broner looks more technical than Maidana but got whooped.