Comments Thread For: Roach: Joshua Has To Lose Some of That Muscle To Beat Wilder

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  • jaded
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    #21
    The guy put on 25 lbs of completely lean muscle mass since turning pro in 4 years and he's NOT using PED's? Pleassseee.

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    • Dip_Slide
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      #22
      I think he should never weigh in more than 245 lbs, 256 was really too heavy.

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      • Boksfan
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        #23
        Wilder has stamina of an middleweight at age of 33 and he's not on PEDs? Pleassseee.

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        • NickyB
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          #24
          Same thing is said with interviews from Robert Garcia. Not about Joshua but to have a complete fighter he needs to be lean not bulky. Strong but not built up because that's stamina. He got gassed vs Klitschko yeah he got it back but at the very end of that fight he was gassed and couldn't even pick up his arms to celebrate. Like I stated before if the fight wasn't stopped I believe Klitschko would have won because Joshua had nothing left.

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          • vitali1999
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            #25
            Roach is giving wilder way to much credit. He has been wrong about who wins fights many of times despite him being a hall of fame trainer. Wilder would get embarrassed by Joshua if they ever would fight

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            • P4Pdunny
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              #26
              Think he will come in light from now on

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              • juggernaut666
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                #27
                Originally posted by jaded
                The guy put on 25 lbs of completely lean muscle mass since turning pro in 4 years and he's NOT using PED's? Pleassseee.
                Lennox Lewis was at least 225 at some point when he started his , took him about 4 years to hit nearly 240, he was 224 against Ossie Ocasio in 90 . Big tall guys are going to fill out ,they arent made to stay slim if they are weight training or genetically gain mass as they get older .

                Lewis didnt even have bulk before turning pro , he was actually wider than Joshua and thicker too . Joshuas more sculpted ,hes also taller .

                Razoz Ruddock was 200 pounds in 1985 , go take a look at his 240 pound hulking body in the Tyson fights in 1991 . And he was 6'3 ....

                Tony Tucker 200 pounds in debut to 222 vs Douglas (he didnt weight train )

                Frank Bruno only 6'3 at 217 to 228 and nearly 240 vs Lewis .

                Wlad Klitchko 225 at least to in the 240's .

                Joshua is just singled out bc of social media .

                Joshua started his career at 230 5 years ago .He just recently ventured at 250 ,no one stays at the same weight nearing their 30's ,metabolism slows and its easier to pack on muscle i know that myself gaining 30 pounds since my teens . Nothing crazy about it at all.

                I highly doubt hes on anything looking like that and not getting caught . Mike Tyson would be in the same boat today too and he was more proportioned than Joshua and P4P bigger at only 5'10 and 220 .

                You also have to take into account these guys arent average ppl , they live and breath training and hired nutrionists ,trainers and coaches ,it aint like yester year .
                Last edited by juggernaut666; 01-27-2018, 04:36 AM.

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                • cameltoe
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                  #28
                  Takam pushed AJ to the limit? Th’f@ck fight was this dude watching?

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                  • cameltoe
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                    #29
                    Will Smith put on like 3 stone for Ali and no one called him out for PED’s.

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                    • PsychoPat
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by ArtyApe
                      That's really interesting to know considering many people think AJ is really technical you would think he would have seen it and adapted much earlier or maybe he saw it but was to tired to do anything at the time he went down? Great insight though
                      It does ask questions about his ring IQ on top of that if aj wasn't picking up on the right hand early on why wasn't his trainer rob mccracken

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