Another reason Wilder isn't as popular as past U.S. HW champs

[DuckAdonis]

People just dont care about boxing that much anyone, plus he isnt promoted that well and he hasnt fought the top guys in his division yet... stop with the ****** sarcasm

[Just looking]

I don't know how you can say any fight that don't go past 4 rounds isn't exciting, so you have it, 31 fights

[Motorcity Cobra]

I don't know how you can say any fight that don't go past 4 rounds isn't exciting, so you have it, 31 fights

What exciting fight should I go back and look at? His fights are boring and then comes the KO. Everything leading up to the KO is boring, bad boxing.

[Ray*]

He just don't think he has been promoted that well. Yes i remember watching his first fight with Bermane st and once i knew the right hand wasn't coming i was bored as hell. But sometimes you just have to do enough to win.

[killakali]

Wilder fought an opponent NOBODY wanted to see him against and it was still the second highest rated Showtime fight of the year. How is that not strong?

The fight peaked at 900,000 viewers according to Nielsen, but that doesn't tell the whole story.

Unlike HBO, Showtime allows their fights to be watched live on their app, even though it will harm the publicly announced Nielsen number. Unlike HBO, Showtime allows a late night replay, even though it will harm the publicly announced Nielsen number. Unlike HBO, Showtime quickly makes the fights available on demand, even though it will harm the publicly announced Nielsen number. Unlike HBO, Showtime makes the entire event available on demand, even though it will harm the publicly announced Nielsen number.

People wonder why Showtime boxing ratings are down across the board and they don't realize it's because Showtime has embraced new technology and makes it as convenient as possible for their viewers to watch in a variety of ways, even though it will harm the publicly announced Nielsen number. HBO does everything possible to preserve that number, to the detriment of their subscribers.

Showtime numbers have Ben down across the board for over three years. This didn’t just start. Jacobs vs Quillin and DeGale Bute were supposed to be big fights but were ratings disasters.

I noticed your screen name has WBA WBC and IBF but u forgot WBO. There’s 4 legit belts

[N/A]

Showtime numbers have Ben down across the board for over three years.

Correct. They've been down ever since the Showtime app added live streaming as people watching through the app are not counted by Nielsen. This is why HBO refuses to allow live streaming of their fights even though Showtime has allowed it for years.

The Showtime numbers falling perfectly correlate with several steps Showtime took to make their fights as accessible as possible. Which is why the Nielsen numbers are so misleading. Think about it logically. Showtime is more committed to boxing than ever before and spending more money on boxing than ever before. Despite "falling ratings." Why do you think that is? Clearly they know something you don't. Which is the true numbers. They know exactly how many people are watching live on the app, watching VOD, etc. So they're basing their decisions on the real numbers, not the Nielsen numbers.

HBO is much more concerned with optics, which is why they're so obsessed with the Nielsen number, even if it makes things much worse for fans that HBO fights can't be streamed live and you have to wait several days for the fights to be added to HBO GO, and even then, they don't add the whole broadcast.

[N/A]

I can assure you everyone knew the Klitchkos too some extent.

We were discussing US heavyweights.

[N/A]

All I'm asking for a one exciting fight. Two other people have named there's and I didn't argue their opinion. Can you name one out of thirty nine?

They weren't exciting to you. Why would I want to try to convince you they were exciting? It's an opinion. I personally have found all of Wilder's fights to be exciting because you know a knockout is likely, you just don't know when. I find that drama exciting. You don't. No problem. I loved the Stiverne fight, the Washington fight, the Malik Scott fight. You didn't. No problem. Maybe you like onions and I don't. We can still be friends.

[Motorcity Cobra]

They weren't exciting to you. Why would I want to try to convince you they were exciting? It's an opinion. I personally have found all of Wilder's fights to be exciting because you know a knockout is likely, you just don't know when. I find that drama exciting. You don't. No problem. I loved the Stiverne fight, the Washington fight, the Malik Scott fight. You didn't. No problem. Maybe you like onions and I don't. We can still be friends.

Well evidently they weren't exciting to the majority of people because only 2 fights out of 39 have been named.

[N/A]

Well evidently they weren't exciting to the majority of people because only 2 fights out of 39 have been named.

the majority of people dont post on message boards. wilder has 600,000 instagram followers. how many of them post here? a handful maybe?

wilder is consistently one of the biggest draws showtime has. clearly he excites people. just because you dont like him doesnt change the fact that hes one of the biggest homegrown attractions in american boxing.