What "evidence" is there Pacquaio is on roids?

[Gigantes]

That never happened. He never asked for 7. 14 day cut off was the final offer. Stop making **** up.

He DID ask for that. He asked for DAY of. You do your search and stop ignoring facts.

"On the other hand, Mayweather continues to say the fight did not push through because Pacquiao refused to commit on the random drug test up the night of the fight."

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/505682-random-drug-test-controversy-continues-to-hound-pacquiao-and-mayweather-jr

[Gigantes]

Floyd isn't bald he shaves his head. Did you see him after jail? He had an Afro lol

lol naw I didn't. Was he having that LeBron hair line lmao

[McNulty]

And the evidence of him saying he was afraid of needles.

Go back and read my post.

[Robbie Barrett]

He DID ask for that. He asked for DAY of. You do your search and stop ignoring facts.

"On the other hand, Mayweather continues to say the fight did not push through because Pacquiao refused to commit on the random drug test up the night of the fight."

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/5...-mayweather-jr

Now you're trying to twist it. WE KNOW HE ASKED FOR DAY OF. That was the very first offer and is standard now. The only other offer was 14 days. You're making up lies and i'm calling you out. Provide the proof to these 7 day, 4 day etc claims you made.

You have none. YOU LIED.

[Gigantes]

It wasn't just the Oscar fight though. His work rate was always good but during his 122-126 days it was more like I described earlier lots of throw away punches mixed in with hard shots. But all of a sudden at WW throwing 1200 HARD punches and not looking tired, turning it up with 90-100 punch rounds late in fights.

This is all circumstantial of course and I don't think there is genuine evidence otherwise it would have surfaced. I use to be like you, innocent until proven guilty, until I read books about Armstrong and how he would never have got caught and there was no real evidence out there had he not comeback, and it still wasn't failed tests which ultimately took him down it was teammates like Floyd Landis and a concerted effort from people like Travis Tygart.

So the lack of evidence is neither here nor there for me. Remember cycling is probably the most aware sport in terms of catching cheats and testing. Boxing is in the stone age in comparison.

Things to not overlook though, is that Pac improved as a fighter and that certainly added to the effect.

He only threw 1200 against clottey and basic physics tells you if you have something to stop your force you'll be able to continue throwing and clottey was just acting like a bag. just like when hitting the heavy bag, we can hit the bag all day but then put us in the ring and make us miss and we'll be gassed. Are there other fights you noticed him throwing punches that look "out of the ordinary"?

Yea I agree with you, I'm not turning a blind eye or wanting to give him numerous passes. I just wanted to hear what's out there since it seems like so many point the finger at him while there are so many other actual evidence for other fighters

One thing that stands out is he's still in the game and never had any major injuries, you would've thought his body would've broken down with "steroid use" (from this logic maybe keith is on roids, he knocked out people and is no longer scoring knockouts and his body is breaking down lol)

[KingHippo]

So what else is there that he was roiding.

The only other thing I can think of is Freddy going on camera saying he didn't know what Ariza was giving him, but was Ariza ever caught/charged with anything and did anyone ever prove what he was giving Manny had any form of PED?

No proof, just plain common sense.

[_Maxi]

Go back and read my post.

Show the evidence of what you claim ******.

[_Maxi]

It wasn't just the Oscar fight though. His work rate was always good but during his 122-126 days it was more like I described earlier lots of throw away punches mixed in with hard shots. But all of a sudden at WW throwing 1200 HARD punches and not looking tired, turning it up with 90-100 punch rounds late in fights.

This is all circumstantial of course and I don't think there is genuine evidence otherwise it would have surfaced. I use to be like you, innocent until proven guilty, until I read books about Armstrong and how he would never have got caught and there was no real evidence out there had he not comeback, and it still wasn't failed tests which ultimately took him down it was teammates like Floyd Landis and a concerted effort from people like Travis Tygart.

So the lack of evidence is neither here nor there for me. Remember cycling is probably the most aware sport in terms of catching cheats and testing. Boxing is in the stone age in comparison.

Things to not overlook though, is that Pac improved as a fighter and that certainly added to the effect.

This is like Floyd having more stamina than all his rivals at 35+ age. Always finishing strong all fights. And taking an IV.

[McNulty]

Show the evidence of what you claim ******.

Again, go back and read my posts. Now you're ignored for wasting my time.

[Robbie Barrett]

This is like Floyd having more stamina than all his rivals at 35+ age. Always finishing strong all fights. And taking an IV.

Having more stamina? You didn't see Mayweather throwing over 1000 punches Maxi.