Has there ever been a worse promoter than al haymon?

[R_Walken]

He's not a promoter so this thread is completely pointless and hate driven. It's like saying Shelly Finkel or Cameron Dunkin is a horrible promoter


But this decade he's been in the background for

3 of the biggest financial fights in the history of the sport

Generating more $ for Mayweather then any other fighter in the history

Multiple fighters that he's associated with have consistently been in the most watched fights the last 3-4 years

his fighters have more straps then any other entity in the sport

Has shown a willingness to have his fighters cross lines to make a fight happen then any other entity in the sport

Been responsible for putting on more 50/50 fights then any other entity in the sport

Been responsible for making the PBC/Showtime the #1 platform for boxing

Whether you want to call him a promoter / manager / advisor /wizard / POS

He's done more for the sport in the last 5 years as a whole then anyone involved
But yeah he's ruining the sport

Look at the first 1/3 of the year Most likely these fights gets made with fighters under his banner

Wilder/Ortiz
Spence/Lamont
Jack/Adonis
LSC/Mares
Thurman/Vargas
Garcia / Lipinets



HBO
Estrada / rungsai
Bivol/ Barrera

Espn

Valdez / Quigg
Crawford / Horn

Matchroom

AJ / Parker


I agree Haymon is a f.ucking dirty f.agot by consistently giving boxing fans good fights . HES RUINING THE SPORT

[archiemoore1]

its amazing how strong some ppls opinions are, but you "don't know **** about boxing", and you damned sure don't know **** about the business side of boxing! so threads like this shouldn't even be discussed half the damned time. everyone wants a voice and to have their opinion heard, so then get into boxing and make the changes u wish to see, since u all know so damned much about everything. its either Al, a man who is seems to me to be try to feed his fighters and teach them something at the same time, or ppl like bob arum and don king who ****d the fighters for half a century, and kept them dumb as a mofo and don't believe in educating the fighters. take ur pick

[bigjavi973]

well of course there is....

cuz al haymon isn't a promoter

[bigjavi973]

he took an unknown guy from kazahkstan who barely speaks english and got him a ppv fight in the usa that did 1.3 million buys with an estimated 20-30 million purse. haymon has home grown fighters with a built in fanbase and can't do anywhere near that. haymon's guys were born on third base and couldn't score. loeffler took a guy on the bench and hit a homerun. baseball!

oh please cut the crap....

he was riding the whole mexican style wave nonsense bs... even had ggg speak espanol a bit etc

oh and how you seem to forget who was the other half of that ppv event

who himself has record numbers left and right that shiiits on lilg's numbers

[Curt Henning]

he took an unknown guy from kazahkstan who barely speaks english and got him a ppv fight in the usa that did 1.3 million buys with an estimated 20-30 million purse. haymon has home grown fighters with a built in fanbase and can't do anywhere near that. haymon's guys were born on third base and couldn't score. loeffler took a guy on the bench and hit a homerun. baseball!

its hilarious watching these guys talk about money and ppv buys....but when floyd canelo or cotto do it they are "chickens" and "nobody cares about that stuff"

its unreal...so funny yet so sad

[rickJen]

He skirts around the promoter label by calling himself an advisor, but we all know he is dual-hatted as a promoter/manager, which is why he is in violation of the Muhammad Ali Act. This is a guy who comes from the notoriously corrupt music industry, so don't think for a moment he isn't shady.

But when you look at all of the talent he snatched up, and that he has champions who still aren't household names, you have to wonder why fighters are staying with him. My guess is they enjoy making <$2M per fight while being matched against mostly soft opposition. They can milk those titles and they are shielded from other dangerous fighters who are signed with different promoters. That way he keeps everything in-house. How he still managed to lose half a billion dollars in three years is still a mystery.

Yeah. And I think they're content in fighting less often.
Becoming PPV stars probably don't even cross their minds.