Has there ever been a worse promoter than al haymon?

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  • HanzGruber
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    #11
    Originally posted by DramaShow
    All that talent, all the great potential match ups yet he can't build a star and can't drum up any excitement in the mainstream...
    What great potential matchup do you want from haymon that hasn't been made?
    Last edited by HanzGruber; 01-11-2018, 01:42 PM.

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    • Demonio1023
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      #12
      Al is an Advisor and he is pretty damn good at advising these primadonna boxers. You see elite boxers fighting boxers with losing records and they get paid really well for it. Great for the boxers, but not so much for us the fans who want to see the elite face the elite.

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      • BoxingIsGreat
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        #13
        Originally posted by daggum
        he took an unknown guy from kazahkstan who barely speaks english and got him a ppv fight in the usa that did 1.3 million buys with an estimated 20-30 million purse. haymon has home grown fighters with a built in fanbase and can't do anywhere near that. haymon's guys were born on third base and couldn't score. loeffler took a guy on the bench and hit a homerun. baseball!
        Not talking about money, that's not my business. Talking about legacy and resume. GGG could've been more and fought way better challenges. That's all I'm saying.

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          #14
          Originally posted by daggum
          he took an unknown guy from kazahkstan who barely speaks english and got him a ppv fight in the usa that did 1.3 million buys with an estimated 20-30 million purse. haymon has home grown fighters with a built in fanbase and can't do anywhere near that. haymon's guys were born on third base and couldn't score. loeffler took a guy on the bench and hit a homerun. baseball!
          Haymon helped move Floyd from guy who couldn't sell to the biggest selling boxer in history in a span of 11 years. He helped Floyd create a model where he made more money than any boxer in history.

          Haymon has been the lead for the 3 biggest selling PPV's in the history of the sport.

          You can't just leave this stuff out when judging success or failure.

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            #15
            Originally posted by GriffTannen
            What great potential matchup do you want from haymon that hasn't been made?
            everyone should be calling for canelo vs charlo and everyone would be if charlo had a proper promoter instead he just floating trying to promote himself and its not really working the only promotion he gets is the run of the mill free promo he gets from Showtime to sell their shows.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Demonio1023
              Al is an Advisor and he is pretty damn good at advising these primadonna boxers. You see elite boxers fighting boxers with losing records and they get paid really well for it. Great for the boxers, but not so much for us the fans who want to see the elite face the elite.
              Exactly. I'm happy they are making all that money but, if the pay doesn't match the level of competition, fans get screwed. Boxing is really crap these days.

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              • HanzGruber
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                #17
                Originally posted by .!WAR MIKEY!
                everyone should be calling for canelo vs charlo and everyone would be if charlo had a proper promoter instead he just floating trying to promote himself and its not really working the only promotion he gets is the run of the mill free promo he gets from Showtime to sell their shows.
                That's not 2 haymon fighters tho. Is Oscar really gonna work with haymon? Besides canelo doesn't wanna fight him there's nothing in it for him. Charlo is WBC mandatory

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by .!WAR MIKEY!
                  everyone should be calling for canelo vs charlo and everyone would be if charlo had a proper promoter instead he just floating trying to promote himself and its not really working the only promotion he gets is the run of the mill free promo he gets from Showtime to sell their shows.
                  I agree.

                  For me, the fights to make right now are: Crawford-Spence, Loma-Mikey, Canelo-Charlo-Saunders, GGG-Saunders-Charlo.

                  None will happen. Nobody is interested in challenges these days.

                  I don't care about heavyweights, or if Joshua-Wilder was free!

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by GriffTannen
                    That's not 2 haymon fighters tho. Is Oscar really gonna work with haymon? Besides canelo doesn't wanna fight him there's nothing in it for him. Charlo is WBC mandatory
                    Oscar already has.

                    who cares what canelo wants.

                    wbc mandatory means nothing.

                    Where is it written that you can only promote your fighter only if the opponent is also your fighter?

                    lmfao.

                    You listed off a bunch of BS lmfao.

                    Promoting charlo will do wonders for his career instead he just looked at as a good talented fighter nothing more nothing less. waiting in the cut hoping he gets his shot relying on a wbc mandotory lol people should be calling for the canelo fight with charlo regardless of a manatory or not thats the difference promoting can do instead even with a mando no one really cares about that fight lmfao.

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                    • HanzGruber
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by .!WAR MIKEY!
                      Oscar already has.

                      who cares what canelo wants.

                      wbc mandatory means nothing.

                      Where is it written that you can only promote your fighter only if the opponent is also your fighter?

                      lmfao.

                      You listed off a bunch of BS lmfao.

                      Promoting charlo will do wonders for his career instead he just looked at as a good talented fighter nothing more nothing less. waiting in the cut hoping he gets his shot relying on a wbc mandotory lol people should be calling for the canelo fight with charlo regardless of a manatory or not thats the difference promoting can do instead even with a mando no one really cares about that fight lmfao.
                      Dude all I said was what are the great potential haymon match ups..

                      Of course it matters what canelo wants. If he doesn't want charlo then he won't fight him

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