Has there ever been a worse promoter than al haymon?

[.!WAR MIKEY!.]

Dude all I said was what are the great potential haymon match ups..

Of course it matters what canelo wants. If he doesn't want charlo then he won't fight him

lmfao and who cares build your name off CANELO DUCKING YOU like GGG DID lmfao thats teh difference promoting can do!

it doesnt have to be haymon vs haymon to promote your FIGHTER lmfao.

[BoxingIsGreat]

Al is an Advisor and he is pretty damn good at advising these primadonna boxers. You see elite boxers fighting boxers with losing records and they get paid really well for it. Great for the boxers, but not so much for us the fans who want to see the elite face the elite.

Yeah, but he's the first person they'd listen to and thank after their fights. They have no promoters. What Al says goes, or they can hit the road. It's his organization (PBC). He's not the only one to blame, however. All these other promoters and networks suck as well.

NO EXCUSES FOR NOT MAKING THE FIGHTS.

If they keep not giving the fans the fights we want, we'll leave. I know I am for sure. I'll give it till the end of this year. Really tired of this politics shit.

Fuck the PBC and all these other networks and promoters!

[.!WAR MIKEY!.]

I agree.

For me, the fights to make right now are: Crawford-Spence, Loma-Mikey, Canelo-Charlo-Saunders, GGG-Saunders-Charlo.

None will happen. Nobody is interested in challenges these days.

I don't care about heavyweights, or if Joshua-Wilder was free!

Yeah theirs tons of fights to be made, but theirs no push(promotion) behind any so that allows fighters to pick and chose which fight they want instead of kinda forcing their hand to face the challenge or receive some backlash from the fans and media (which isnt really a bad thing either still free press).

Im looking forward to these heavyweight figths, parker vs aj, wilder vs ortiz then hopefully aj vs widler and you still have tyson furing in the backdrop trying to get in the mix so its gonna be a fun year or 2.

Top fights that should have been done already
Khan vs Brook
koavelev vs stenvenson

and top fights that should be underway heavily being pushed and promoted to happen in the next 12-18 months

Spence vs Crawford
(crawford should get himself a big win at 147 first, and spence should dispose of peterson in flashy fashion but in all actuality this fight can marinate some more)

Loma vs Mikey
(this fight should happen now or never, mikey is big and this is the close in weight they'll ever be imo, everyone wants this fight now only question is doe sloma dare to be great)

Aj vs Wilder
(great heavyweight fight the two top HW that actually look like HW fighters, this has a great build up underway with each facing good oppenents next to parlae that into their show down)

Charlo vs canelo
(charlo needs to maybe face jacob and KO him and canelo can face BJS and beat him and then the stage is set for Charlo vs Canelo, however charlo team etc need to get on the promotion and push charlo out there)

[BoxingIsGreat]

He skirts around the promoter label by calling himself an advisor, but we all know he is dual-hatted as a promoter/manager, which is why he is in violation of the Muhammad Ali Act. This is a guy who comes from the notoriously corrupt music industry, so don't think for a moment he isn't shady.

But when you look at all of the talent he snatched up, and that he has champions who still aren't household names, you have to wonder why fighters are staying with him. My guess is they enjoy making <$2M per fight while being matched against mostly soft opposition. They can milk those titles and they are shielded from other dangerous fighters who are signed with different promoters. That way he keeps everything in-house. How he still managed to lose half a billion dollars in three years is still a mystery.

Bold 1: Do you have a video or something where he's promoting fights? From what I've seen, he pays other promoters to do that, although they do none of that. Nobody promotes anything at PBC that much, not even the fighters themselves.

Bold 2: And vice versa.

[Outwest Exp 355]

He skirts around the promoter label by calling himself an advisor, but we all know he is dual-hatted as a promoter/manager, which is why he is in violation of the Muhammad Ali Act. This is a guy who comes from the notoriously corrupt music industry, so don't think for a moment he isn't shady.

But when you look at all of the talent he snatched up, and that he has champions who still aren't household names, you have to wonder why fighters are staying with him. My guess is they enjoy making <$2M per fight while being matched against mostly soft opposition. They can milk those titles and they are shielded from other dangerous fighters who are signed with different promoters. That way he keeps everything in-house. How he still managed to lose half a billion dollars in three years is still a mystery.

He’s never done an interview. Does that sound like promotion to you?

[HanzGruber]

All that talent, all the great potential match ups yet he can't build a star and can't drum up any excitement in the mainstream...

You still haven't named the great potential matchups. Why make a bread then not post in it again?

[jas]

Lol

Of course haymon is a promoter

Those saying he isnt are the same ones who wrongly said pbc would be a success

[Oluminati]

Top Rank has 2 of the top 5 p4p and both aren't stars. It ain't just on Haymon or Bob, I mainly put the blame on the legends not "passing the torch". The stars of the past 5 years are Floyd, Manny, and Cotto. Canelo fought 2 of them and is now a star as well as AJ. A couple more stars will emerge in the next 2 years, just takes timing.

[Tmtsucks]

Lol al gaymon went through half a billion or whatever is was he failed in his goal to create his own league and pbc is just about dead.

[rickJen]

Nothing worse than putting young prime fighters on the shelf for long periods of time.