Is Lomachenko the fastest and most athletic white boxer ever?

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  • CubanGuyNYC
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    #31
    Originally posted by considerthis
    he was indeed...but he only became faded once he signed to fight loma.
    A 37 year old athlete is, by definition, past prime, i.e. faded, or at least fading. Then factor in the two division climb. But again, it’s got nothing to do with quality of opposition. There’s no one in Lomachenko’s future to give him the legacy of Mayweather. Not Vasyl’s fault, but it is what it is.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Redd Foxx
      What are you describing as "athletic"? I see him as being highly technique-driven. "Athletic" tends to describe guys like Roy and Pacquiao who do unusual things which rely on physical gifts more than technique. The things Loma does now, he should be able to do in 5, or even 10 years because they are rooted in technique, not athleticism.
      No, Loma is not the most athletic white boxer ever.
      Really? Lomachenko can do a back flip without barely any forward motion. That takes an incredible amount of body control and coordination. He also seems to be ambidextrous and extremely fast with both hands and feet. Not to mention his stamina

      PFP I think the only thing a guy like roy would have on him is reach. Strength, maybe. It appears at times lomachenko can stop his opponents when ever he wants, though.

      He's as athletic as any boxer I have seen, for his size.

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        #33
        You should just remove the word "white" and your statement would still be factual.

        Tell me a boxer who is PFP more athletic than loma????

        No one is obviously more athletic pfp, it's all debatable

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        • Redd Foxx
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          #34
          Originally posted by jmrf4435
          Really? Lomachenko can do a back flip without barely any forward motion. That takes an incredible amount of body control and coordination. He also seems to be ambidextrous and extremely fast with both hands and feet. Not to mention his stamina

          PFP I think the only thing a guy like roy would have on him is reach. Strength, maybe. It appears at times lomachenko can stop his opponents when ever he wants, though.

          He's as athletic as any boxer I have seen, for his size.
          Stopped reading after the first line. When he does a back flip in a fight, you let me know. I'm talking about actual boxing, which is something I don't think you watch.

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          • Vlad_
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            #35
            Originally posted by Redd Foxx
            What are you describing as "athletic"? I see him as being highly technique-driven. "Athletic" tends to describe guys like Roy and Pacquiao who do unusual things which rely on physical gifts more than technique. The things Loma does now, he should be able to do in 5, or even 10 years because they are rooted in technique, not athleticism.
            No, Loma is not the most athletic white boxer ever.
            Well Loma does walk and jump on his hands upside down, he can do a backflip. His workouts are very unusual and athletic.

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            • Tony Trick-Pony
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              #36
              Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
              Really, let him use the N-word one time and then tell me he isn't white.

              He was already accused of having white privilege because he earned 3x as much as Rigo in their fight.

              Stop trying to discredit white fighters, especially one whose legacy will surpass Floyd's in a few years.
              Not a surprise.

              Where they hand out these wp checks?

              Tryin' to get paid...

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              • Real King Kong
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                #37
                Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC
                A 37 year old athlete is, by definition, past prime, i.e. faded, or at least fading. Then factor in the two division climb. But again, it’s got nothing to do with quality of opposition. There’s no one in Lomachenko’s future to give him the legacy of Mayweather. Not Vasyl’s fault, but it is what it is.
                with loma getting a late start, it'd be hard for him to build the type of resume Floyd has...but there's quite a few guys that are every bit as good as the better wins Floyd had. if he was to fight and beat guys like berchelt, linares, Garcia and face Crawford at a cw down the line...that's every bit as good if not better than the caliber of opposition Floyd was facing. as far as the ppv/money aspect of Floyd's legacy...there's almost no chance loma can ever get there. as a fan, when I think of legacy, I'm not thinking about how much money a guy made...I'm thinking about who he beat and the context of those wins.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Vlad_
                  Well Loma does walk and jump on his hands upside down, he can do a backflip. His workouts are very unusual and athletic.
                  That dude redfoxx thinks he's super level headed but he's clearly a fanboy in subtle disguise.

                  Comes up with the most insane theories to justify in his head how lomchenko isn't athletic

                  It's insane

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                  • Redd Foxx
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Vlad_
                    Well Loma does walk and jump on his hands upside down, he can do a backflip. His workouts are very unusual and athletic.
                    Yes, he's very athletic and also an intelligent guy. BUT, I'm talking about his boxing. He doesn't rely on athleticism in his boxing, he's just got sick technique and I've predicted that he will be able to have a long career (if he chooses) because the things he relies on (technique and intelligence) don't fade like athleticism does.

                    That other guy sees him doing flips and doesn't understand that it doesn't mean Loma is athletic as a boxer. Loma doesn't do the unbalanced type of 'athletic' things we used to see Pac do. He could, but he doesn't need to because he's got the science mastered.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by jmrf4435
                      Really? Lomachenko can do a back flip without barely any forward motion. That takes an incredible amount of body control and coordination. He also seems to be ambidextrous and extremely fast with both hands and feet. Not to mention his stamina

                      PFP I think the only thing a guy like roy would have on him is reach. Strength, maybe. It appears at times lomachenko can stop his opponents when ever he wants, though.

                      He's as athletic as any boxer I have seen, for his size.
                      I'm a huge Loma fan, but PFP he isn't as athletic as prime Roy. Nor do I think he's as athletic as Prime Floyd. Loma does not launch quick, powerful left hooks from a damn near stand still or has shown to have that rare combination of explosive speed and power that Roy had. P4P Roy is also a harder puncher (which probably allowed him to move up in weight).

                      But this thread isn't about Loma vs Floyd or Roy... The question is, has there ever been a more athletic and faster WHITE fighter. I can't think of any.

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