Posters claim being undefeated means nothing...

[SthPaw]

Losing, in the grand scheme of things does not detract from a career overall.

Think of any all time great, they probably lost didn’t they?

Thing is, people these days are way too easily bought into the whole marketing BS and promotions on the whole undefeated angle. Yeah, being undefeated is a great thing to be able to say about your career - you are a fighter and no one beat you - that is obviously a positive. But if you can’t say that? So what? Was it not Ali himself that said “just lost a fight, that’s all” after Frazier beat him? Look how Ali’s career turned out.

Fact is it doesn’t really matter, people just fall way to deep into thinking it is. The Mayweather era didn’t help that much with that. Floyd is a great fighter with a damn fine record, granted, but many many people read into that as the standard model to be followed when it isn’t.

[Schmerzen]

what's the point of being undefeated if your fights are boring. lomachenko was 1-1 when he beat russell 22-0

[Madison Boxing]

you gonna give golovkin credit then??

[Jedi Vader]

you gonna give golovkin credit then??

Similarly, are you going to give Floyd and Ward credit then?

If not, cease asking the same question you hypocrite.

[Floyd is TBE]

you gonna give golovkin credit then??

He didn't beat Canelo. Not undefeated

[GGG Gloveking]

He didn't beat Canelo. Not undefeated

He didn't lose to Canelo. He's undefeated

[Floyd is TBE]

He didn't lose to Canelo. He's undefeated

He tied, drawed, fought him to a stalemate, he failed to prove he was the superior man. You fight to win. As far as I'm concerned ties in professional sports are ****** as **** and just as bad as losing.

[Madison Boxing]

Similarly, are you going to give Floyd and Ward credit then?

If not, cease asking the same question you hypocrite.

will give floyd credit but not ward. He lost that kovalev fight.

[GGG Gloveking]

He tied, drawed, fought him to a stalemate, he failed to prove he was the superior man. You fight to win. As far as I'm concerned ties in professional sports are ****** as **** and just as bad as losing.

Ok. That doesn't change the definition of the word

[GhostofDempsey]

If you want to use undefeated as the measure of greatness, then Sven Ottke is the second best SMW of all time since he retired 34-0, leaving Calaaghe as the greatest SMW of all time at 46-0.