How Did You Score the Cotto Fight

[DLT]

Ive read a million threads and post on this fight and I still cant get a hold on it. One guy will say that Paulie looked great and backed everything up and he was unimpressed with Cotto. Then the next guy will say that Cotto killed him and Paulie is garbage with a big mouth and then you here everything in between. I still dont know the deal.

How long was the fight in jeopardy? Was the fight still in jeopardy going into the 11th because if it was then people need to give Paulie more respect. Ive heard some say, "Why, wasnt he supposed to beat Cotto, he talked alot of trash and couldnt back it up".

The bottom line is some people thought he could pull off the upset because of his style and so on but he was definatly not a guy like Mayweather, Hatton, Castillo, or Margarito who you definatly knew what they brought to the table and you could make a fair guaranteed assesment about it, so I say that if Paulie did do well and still have the fight in doubt late then he did backup his talk and was game.

I just still cant get a grip on this fight. One guy will say that Cotto dominated him and the next will say that Cotto looked so overrated and struggled with Paulie. I also got this from another board and want to know how you scored it.

Paulie probally didnt win or get a draw but if he had the fight very competitive going into the championship rounds which is the 11th or 12th then I would say he did a good job because most of the people who picked Cotto said he would wipe Paulie out and that he is not on Cotto's level, so I dont see how you guys can diss him after he gave Cotto a good fight?

Mouth or not, its still not the same when it comes from a kind of unknown guy. If Tarver, Floyd, Toney, etc talk **** and then loses then it means something but if Paulie talks then that doesnt really carry the same weight because he hasnt beaten any legitimate fighters, so I dont know why you guys would hold that against him or diss his performance because of that. If Sosa talked **** about Cotto and then got KO then no one would care and Sosa has done more the Paulie so whats the big deal? It sounds to me like Paulie talked **** withouht beating anyone but club fighters and still took a big monster like Cotto 12 rounds, confused him some, and made it very competitive until late. That sounds good to me.

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[Left2body]

I scored it 8rds to 4rds for Cotto with the 2nd round be a 10-8rd for Cotto.

[DLT]

As far as what I said before the fight, about the blowout and such, it sounds like this fight almost falls in the middle. It sounds like that Cotto didnt blow him out to the point where I would take credit from him but he didnt struggle enough to the point where I will give him alot of credit. Atleast thats what it sounds like from the crazy post Ive read but everyone says something different.

All in all, I will give him alot of credit because it sounds like that Paulie represented well but Cotto was just too big. In some ways this weight stuff is getting a littile upsetting though because it seems like alot of these guys have a very good chance but Cotto is just outweighing them by so much. Guys like Paulie, Chop, Torres, and maybe Branco but for some reason I cant remember that fight as clearly.

It will be fun to see how Cotto looks at 147 without the weight advantage. It kind of reminds me of Margarito killing guys with his size but then losing to a average guy like Santos at 147 and failing to stop him

[DLT]

I scored it 8rds to 4rds for Cotto with the 2nd round be a 10-8rd for Cotto.

How many did Cotto win at the end. Like, did he win the last 3 rounds, 4 rounds, or what?

[PRboxingfan]

DLT, first let me say that while I"m Puerto Rican I think I scored this fight quite objectively.

I had Cotto winning 6-4 in rounds after the 10th so, barring a KD scored by Paulie, the fight was in Cottos favor and was not in jeopardy going into the 11th. I gave Cotto the first 4 rounds and thought Paulie pulled out a few middle rounds(5, 6, 7, and 9 if I remember correctly). Im not making any excuses either, but Cotto seemed to hurt his hand at some point in the middle rounds, too. I heard him mention it in the corner after the 7th but he said in the press conference he hurt it in the 4th. Either way, it was a good match and Paulie fought a great fight and showed he has balls.

[PRboxingfan]

It will be fun to see how Cotto looks at 147 without the weight advantage. It kind of reminds me of Margarito killing guys with his size but then losing to a average guy like Santos at 147 and failing to stop him

Margarito didnt lose to Santos at 147, a cut caused a draw. He lost at 154 and was giving him a good fight. Remember that Santos is a slick southpaw, too, with power in both his hands. I think Margarito performed very well against Santos.

As for Cotto, he said in the press conference this was, without "fear of being wrong", his last fight at 140. We will see him at 147 for his next fight.

[Left2body]

As far as what I said before the fight, about the blowout and such, it sounds like this fight almost falls in the middle. It sounds like that Cotto didnt blow him out to the point where I would take credit from him but he didnt struggle enough to the point where I will give him alot of credit. Atleast thats what it sounds like from the crazy post Ive read but everyone says something different.

All in all, I will give him alot of credit because it sounds like that Paulie represented well but Cotto was just too big. In some ways this weight stuff is getting a littile upsetting though because it seems like alot of these guys have a very good chance but Cotto is just outweighing them by so much. Guys like Paulie, Chop, Torres, and maybe Branco but for some reason I cant remember that fight as clearly.

I dont understand? You said before the fight that you would give Cotto more respect if the fight went the distance and Cotto outboxed Paulie. Now your saying he didn't struggle enough with Paulie to gain your respect
It will be fun to see how Cotto looks at 147 without the weight advantage. It kind of reminds me of Margarito killing guys with his size but then losing to a average guy like Santos at 147 and failing to stop him

Cotto boxed extremely well versus Paulie. If you find a tape of the fight look at how many of Paulies punches were slipped, Caught on the gloves or caught on Cotto's forearms. Cotto's jab was IMO better than Paulie's although Paulie had a better 1-2. There wasn't a huge hand speed difference either. Paulie shine when he capitalized on Cotto's breif momments of relaxation. When ever Cotto took a single step backwards Paulie would pounce on him.

[DLT]

PR, that sounds objective and pretty good. I heard that Cotto hurt his hand too but while I know there are alot of injuries in boxing, I still dont buy them half the time. Im a big Floyd fan but he had that bad 5 fight stretch after his dad stopped training him and he was trying to change to his Uncles style.

I remember him saying in one fight that he hurt his shoulder but I didnt buy it. I remember in the Hernandez fight he went down in the 10th because his hand hurt so bad. In both cases I thought he was faking just because he didnt look good and in the Hernandez fight, it was right after the Chico fight and it was at home, so I thought he felt dumb that he didnt look as good as he did against Chico, and couldnt stop him like he predicted.

Some fights like Chaves-Morales you could tell Chaves was hurt because he never threw his right anymore the whole fight and some fighters have a case of bad hands but I still think some guys feel dumb when they arent performing as well as they think they should. If it happened in the 7th or 8th then thats right around the time that Paulie was doing well and around the time that Cotto probally realized he wasnt going to stop this featherfisted chump like he thought he would

[DLT]

I dont understand? You said before the fight that you would give Cotto more respect if the fight went the distance and Cotto outboxed Paulie. Now your saying he didn't struggle enough with Paulie to gain your respect
It will be fun to see how Cotto looks at 147 without the weight advantage. It kind of reminds me of Margarito killing guys with his size but then losing to a average guy like Santos at 147 and failing to stop him

Cotto boxed extremely well versus Paulie. If you find a tape of the fight look at how many of Paulies punches were slipped, Caught on the gloves or caught on Cotto's forearms. Cotto's jab was IMO better than Paulie's although Paulie had a better 1-2. There wasn't a huge hand speed difference either. Paulie shine when he capitalized on Cotto's breif momments of relaxation. When ever Cotto took a single step backwards Paulie would pounce on him.

I said I would give Cotto more respect if the fight went the distance and Cotto struggled but that goes back to what I said about me not being able to get a grip on the story. A guy like you makes it sound that way but then others on here act like Paulie only won 2 or 3 rounds and Cotto pounded him. Ill watch it this week and Ill know for sure but you heard me say that "all in all I will give Cotto alot of credit because I think the objective fans said that Paulie showed well and came to fight".

[Left2body]

DLT, first let me say that while I"m Puerto Rican I think I scored this fight quite objectively.

I had Cotto winning 6-4 in rounds after the 10th so, barring a KD scored by Paulie, the fight was in Cottos favor and was not in jeopardy going into the 11th. I gave Cotto the first 4 rounds and thought Paulie pulled out a few middle rounds(5, 6, 7, and 9 if I remember correctly). Im not making any excuses either, but Cotto seemed to hurt his hand at some point in the middle rounds, too. I heard him mention it in the corner after the 7th but he said in the press conference he hurt it in the 4th. Either way, it was a good match and Paulie fought a great fight and showed he has balls.

You can see Cotto wince when after the fight there taking off the glove to his left hand. It also looks like 2 fights, 1-4 relentless pressure and powerful lefts and combos and 5-11 seemed to box more and pick his shots, mostly 1 shot at a time. 12th he ****** it up and just let the hands go again.