Why did Ortiz choose to fight Wilder over Joshua?

[Raggamuffin]

But then why did he have to fight Ustinov for a mandatory shot if he was already mandatory?

The sanctioning bodies seem to make up the rules as they go sometimes to suit their purposes.

I won't guess and speculate as to why he was not given a title shot that he's deserved for some time now. The TS stated his lame reason why Ortiz chose Wilder lmao over Joshua. I questioned why Joshua didn't fight him.

[Robbie Barrett]

He doesn't even know what he's lying about. It's because you've confused yourself with your own lies you Joshua and Hearn **** blower.

I don't know and you don't either, because i'm not. Some kind of lame attempt to win an argument you lost.

[N/A]

There you go again talking down,

Why wouldn't we talk down to you? You're rude, obnoxious, constantly posting false information. You're, by far, one of the least intelligent posters on this site. Which we prove consistently by countering your points. You obsess over who we are because if you try to stick to debating positions like gentlemen, you sink quickly.

but no proof in sight.

We don't have to prove who we are. We just have to prove our points. Our logic is sound. If you believe otherwise, discuss the merits of our arguments with us. You can't. So you focus on personal attacks and childish remarks. You're incapable of intelligent adult discussion.

Sad little man pretending to be something you're not.

Not pretending anything. Not sure why you find it so incredulous that somebody would have friends working at the sanctioning bodies. Either our understanding of sanctioning body rules is sound or it isn't. Who we are is irrelevant.

[Robbie Barrett]

Why wouldn't we talk down to you? You're rude, obnoxious, constantly posting false information. You're, by far, one of the least intelligent posters on this site. Which we prove consistently by countering your points. You obsess over who we are because if you try to stick to debating positions like gentlemen, you sink quickly.




We don't have to prove who we are. We just have to prove our points. Our logic is sound. If you believe otherwise, discuss the merits of our arguments with us. You can't. So you focus on personal attacks and childish remarks. You're incapable of intelligent adult discussion.




Not pretending anything. Not sure why you find it so incredulous that somebody would have friends working at the sanctioning bodies. Either are understanding of sanctioning body rules is sound or it isn't. Who we are is irrelevant.

You don't prove ****. You make claims and then say "we know more we actually work in boxing", you're using your claim that you work in the sport as proof. That doesn't work unless you prove you actually do work in the sport.

[N/A]

You don't prove ****. You make claims and then say "we know more we actually work in boxing", you're using your claim that you work in the sport as proof. That doesn't work unless you prove you actually do work in the sport.

We say we know more when it comes to contracts, sanctioning fees, etc because what other way is there for us to explain why we would have that knowledge? Clearly you're just a fan on a message board running his mouth. Not even you dispute that. We both know you have no expertise of this subject and routinely make assumptions over things you couldn't possibly know.

So if you say "prove yourself," what you're really asking us to do is to produce tax records, proof of purse payment, etc of fighters we've worked with to expose them for defrauding the government and sanctioning bodies. Why the hell would we do that?

If you don't believe us that it's standard procedure for A-sides to file false figures with the commission, that's fine. Believe whatever you want. But if you'd been following the sport for longer than two minutes, you'd be independently aware of the numerous instances where sanctioning bodies have had to sue fighters and promoters because the purse filed with the commission was so obviously a ruse.

[Robbie Barrett]

We say we know more when it comes to contracts, sanctioning fees, etc because what other way is there for us to explain why we would have that knowledge? Clearly you're just a fan on a message board running his mouth. Not even you dispute that. We both know you have no expertise of this subject and routinely make assumptions over things you couldn't possibly know.

So if you say "prove yourself," what you're really asking us to do is to produce tax records, proof of purse payment, etc of fighters we've worked with to expose them for defrauding the government and sanctioning bodies. Why the hell would we do that?

If you don't believe us that it's standard procedure for A-sides to file false figures with the commission, that's fine. Believe whatever you want. But if you'd been following the sport for longer than two minutes, you'd be independently aware of the numerous instances where sanctioning bodies have had to sue fighters and promoters because the purse filed with the commission was so obviously a ruse.

You're full of ****. You want people to believe you work in the sport but not to provide any evidence.


You aren't fooling me or most others. Nobody will ever take you seriously.


You know someone people do take seriously on here? John Scully, he actually proved it was him.


You're just a pathetic faker.

[N/A]

You're full of ****.

False.

You want people to believe you work in the sport

False. Couldn't care less what you believe. We're just people posting like anybody else. Our views are shaped by our experiences and knowledge, just like yours are. You don't care what we think about you and the feeling is mutual.

but not to provide any evidence.

What evidence do you need that A-sides generally lie about their purse? Do you really believe Cotto only made $750,000 for his retirement fight? Why should we have to betray friends and clients to satisfy some random anonymous loser on the internet?

You aren't fooling me or most others. Nobody will ever take you seriously.

Hahahaha we've actually been PM'd by people in the industry many times over the years and have gotten work before thanks to this site. Try again.

[Robbie Barrett]

False.




False. Couldn't care less what you believe. We're just people posting like anybody else. Our views are shaped by our experiences and knowledge, just like yours are. You don't care what we think about you and the feeling is mutual.




What evidence do you need that A-sides generally lie about their purse? Do you really believe Cotto only made $750,000 for his retirement fight? Why should we have to betray friends and clients to satisfy some random anonymous loser on the internet?




Hahahaha we've actually been PM'd by people in the industry many times over the years and have gotten work before thanks to this site. Try again.

Fantasy......

[N/A]

Fantasy......

Why won't you answer the question?

Do you really believe Cotto only made $750,000 for his retirement fight?

[Robbie Barrett]

Why won't you answer the question?

Do you really believe Cotto only made $750,000 for his retirement fight?

You sent me a PM saying you don't care what i believe and now you're asking what i believe. ****** faker..........