Danny Garcia Is Screwing Up His Legacy

[john l]

Anybody who boxes and moves well will beat Garcia and
NO, he did not give Thurman a good fight. **** the judges that was not a close fight.

OK whatever I think most people would disagree with you but not gonna waste time trying to convince you.

[Slicc]

Crawford wasn't even a option for Horns fall fight .

Horn sucks.

In the last 3 years Garcia will have fought
Lamont
Guerrero
Thurman
Paulie
Vargas
Rios

Rios is done and Vargas is garbage. Malignaggi and Guerrero were both past their prime. He barely beat Peterson, and lost to Thurman. Also, you forgot Herrera and Salka.

What other fighters in the last 3 years has had a better resume

Canelo - even though both his 2 good fights were against fighters that were at the tail end of their careers. The rest were sh.it

Lara, Trout and Golovkin are shit to you? Wow

Add to it what he did the previous 3 years before that when Most of the fighters listed fought nobodies. But yeah the fighter with the second deepest resume in his age group is a cherry picker.

Garcia could've fought Mayweather 4 years ago, and I wouldn't give a fuck. If you fight Herrera and Salka back-to-back, then Malignaggi and Vargas later on, you're a cherry picker.

He chose not to fight Postol because he's a absolute nobody and had beaten nobody just a internet sensation and the 1 time he stepped up to Elite level he got embarrassed.

If Postol was a nobody, then what were Herrera, Salka and Vargas? Danny doesn't even deny being a cherry picker anymore. His own dad confirmed it in an interview.

I thought Garcia / Herrera was a close fight that could have gone either way I had it 7-5. The reason he fought Herrera was because Herrera was the last 140 at the time to beat Ruslan who held the strap at the time. Basically Garcia beat all the belt holder or beat the last guy to beat the belt holders at 140 at the time.

Garcia was supposed to blow Herrera outta the water. It shouldn't have even been close. Provodnikov loses to anyone with boxing skills. Fucking Algieri outboxed him. It's not like Garcia fought Herrera right after he beat Provodnikov. Garcia fought Herrera like 3 years after the bout. Herrera lost twice in between his fights against Garcia and Provodnikov.

I like how clearing out a decent division isn't enough for you to earn your respect I bet your fan of and respect boxers who have accomplished much less. So all he has to do is clear out his second division which is the most stacked in boxing yeah that's not a tall task

I can put respect on Matthysse and Khan, but Salka and Herrera? Peterson is the closest thing to a notable opponent Garcia has beaten since Matthysse, and one could argue that Peterson won.

Obviously lots of people watch Garcia regardless of how often he fights and what your opinions are because his fights have consistently been the most watched fights the last couple years.

I could understand paying to see Garcia against an actual decent opponent, but Rios? Lol

[R_Walken]

Horn sucks.


Rios is done and Vargas is garbage. Malignaggi and Guerrero were both past their prime. He barely beat Peterson, and lost to Thurman. Also, you forgot Herrera and Salka.


Lara, Trout and Golovkin are shit to you? Wow


Garcia could've fought Mayweather 4 years ago, and I wouldn't give a fuck. If you fight Herrera and Salka back-to-back, then Malignaggi and Vargas later on, you're a cherry picker.


If Postol was a nobody, then what were Herrera, Salka and Vargas? Danny doesn't even deny being a cherry picker anymore. His own dad confirmed it in an interview.


Garcia was supposed to blow Herrera outta the water. It shouldn't have even been close. Provodnikov loses to anyone with boxing skills. Fucking Algieri outboxed him. It's not like Garcia fought Herrera right after he beat Provodnikov. Garcia fought Herrera like 3 years after the bout. Herrera lost twice in between his fights against Garcia and Provodnikov.


I can put respect on Matthysse and Khan, but Salka and Herrera? Peterson is the closest thing to a notable opponent Garcia has beaten since Matthysse, and one could argue that Peterson won.


I could understand paying to see Garcia against an actual decent opponent, but Rios? Lol

You're preaching to the choir about Horn I agree with you

I like how this entire conversation you disregard facts and let the estrogen over take you and go off emotion

These are the facts no matter how much you want to ignore them
Garcia has one of the best resume for a fighter his age even in the last 3 years when you try to say all he's done is cherry pick there are only a handful of boxers with better resumes
Garcia has been the underdog in more fights then most championship boxers his age
Garcia is one of the most popular boxers fighting today

I went 3 years back from the time PBC was formed so that's why Herrera and Salka weren't included but if you want to go 5-6 years back when he fought Lucas, Khan, Moreales , Zab the only fighter with a better resume is Canelo

I didn't include Lara or Trout because in the last 3 years neither have faced better overall competition then Garcia

You can make a valid claim for Golovkin though so I probably over looked him

But even overlooking them how does that mean I think they're sh.it Ive stated that Lara & Golivkin are both in my top 5 I just don't think resume wise in the last 3 years They fought tougher competition then Garcia but reviewing Gennadys CV it has been better then Danny's in the last 3 years

I already explained why he fought Herrera because At that point Danny should have had 3 straps and Ruslan probably because of Arum wasnt going to set that fight up so the next best thing is to fight the last guy to beat the champ

It doesn't matter that Garcia was supposed to run through Herrera. It's a sport you don't know how it'll play out untill it happens. Degeale was supposed to run through Truax, Cotto was supposed to run through Ali. They didn't it happens the difference is Danny edged out a close fight so it is what it is

You can go through almost any top level fighters resume and find a couple soft touches and nobodies they faced regardless of rankings

Was Gennady / Wade much less of a farce then Salka / Garcia
What about Lara / Foreman , Canelo / Kirkland , Crawford / Jean
Kovalev / Caparello or Mohammadi. It's part of the sport

But Garcia has stepped up to the plate more then most and has shown he's willing to fight top level opponents in their prime and even be the underdog something most fighters haven't done and been victorious more often then not

But yeah he's a cherry picker

[IMDAZED]

Garcia will be fine.

[Slicc]

I like how this entire conversation you disregard facts and let the estrogen over take you and go off emotion

I'm the emotional one, but you opened our discussion by calling me a "whiny faggot?" Love how that works. I never disregarded the facts. You disregarded the fact that Garcia's a cherry picker.

These are the facts no matter how much you want to ignore them
Garcia has one of the best resume for a fighter his age even in the last 3 years when you try to say all he's done is cherry pick there are only a handful of boxers with better resumes

I don't care about the fact that he beat Matthysse and Khan 4 and 5 years ago, respectively. He gets credit for taking them on, but that doesn't excuse the cherries on his record. I care about what's happening now the most, and now he's fighting a glorified punching bag.

I went 3 years back from the time PBC was formed so that's why Herrera and Salka weren't included but if you want to go 5-6 years back when he fought Lucas, Khan, Moreales , Zab the only fighter with a better resume is Canelo

Morales and Judah were finished. The only impressive wins on Garcia's record are Matthysse and Khan, imo.

It doesn't matter that Garcia was supposed to run through Herrera. It's a sport you don't know how it'll play out untill it happens. Degeale was supposed to run through Truax, Cotto was supposed to run through Ali. They didn't it happens the difference is Danny edged out a close fight so it is what it is

Jack beat DeGale out of his prime, and Cotto was already way past his prime against Ali. Danny Garcia just isn't that great, and Thurman confirmed it once and for all.

You can go through almost any top level fighters resume and find a couple soft touches and nobodies they faced regardless of rankings

I don't know any other top fighters who fought Salka, Herrera and Vargas.

[eco1]

Fanny Farceia is indeed a Cherry picker!

And I would love to see Lucas fight him again.

[SkillspayBills]

The man was on top of the world after beating Lucas. I honestly don't know what happened now. I will rarely if ever say a fighter is afraid of another but Danny is obviously averse to some challenges out there.

[R_Walken]

I'm the emotional one, but you opened our discussion by calling me a "whiny faggot?" Love how that works. I never disregarded the facts. You disregarded the fact that Garcia's a cherry picker.


I don't care about the fact that he beat Matthysse and Khan 4 and 5 years ago, respectively. He gets credit for taking them on, but that doesn't excuse the cherries on his record. I care about what's happening now the most, and now he's fighting a glorified punching bag.


Morales and Judah were finished. The only impressive wins on Garcia's record are Matthysse and Khan, imo.


Jack beat DeGale out of his prime, and Cotto was already way past his prime against Ali. Danny Garcia just isn't that great, and Thurman confirmed it once and for all.


I don't know any other top fighters who fought Salka, Herrera and Vargas.

I'm tapping out after this post because we're just running around in circles

I would classify A cherry picker as some one who always has an advantage in a fight and never takes on tough competition always looking for the easiest route

I wouldn't classify a fighter with the 2nd best resume among fighters his age a cherry picker. If he is what does that say about every other fighter ?

I'm not going to defend Salka. Everyone knows it was a sh.it fight but whatever at the time he fought him Garcia had already fought the guy everyone said he was afraid of and had beaten lots of good names

Before Moreales fought Garcia for a strap he gave Maidana all he could handle obviously he was long in the tooth. But this isn't like when Khan fought Barrera or when Ruslan fought Castillo , there was still some life in Moreales. The fact that Danny had to get his first strap off a future HOf is something he should get props for. Most guys going for their first straps fight absolute nobodies

Maybe we think different but to me facing old past prime Champions to some degree still hold some weight especially when in previous or after fights they show they can still beat fringe contenders. Maybe that's just me so while Zab , Moreales , Paulie , Guerrero where all past their expiration date I'd rather those fights then fighters that have never fought for a title or have shown they will never be in that class


Yeah having your first loss to a guy considered a P4P talent in his prime in a reasonably close fight shows you that Garcia was never any good. You realize how f.ucking ****** that sounds

I already said that Salka was a sh.it fight but to lump Vargas a guy who's only losses are to Spence and Garcia me who's a lower level contender and Herrera a guy who when he fought Garcia was a top 10 guy and who has beat Ruslan and Lundy and who had fights with Benividez and Garcia which could have gone either way makes you come across as a ******

Have a good one man

[Gigantes]

He's beaten Khan and Matthysee..nothing else on his resume stands out at all. I just made this argument a few days ago. Morales, Judah, Malignaggi, Guerrero? C'mon. Clearly didn't want to fight Postol who got whopped by Crawford. He arguably lost to Herrera and imo should've lost to Peterson as well in their fight. Danny fights down to his competition in many cases and considering the names available to him he keeps choosing to pad his record. Simply having names for the sake of having names on your resume is pointless. Where he should've been a big star by now he's happy to be where he is. The only ones blowing him up like he's some legend are his fans.

100% agree with this. I give him credit for Khan and Lucas but I think those were "any given Sunday" type of performances. Both guys wanted immediate rematches but he decided to run and fight weaker comp instead. Maybe he beats both again in rematches, but point is he didn't want to give any rematch and fought horrible people after. As soon as he loses to Keith what does he do, wants a rematch

[daggum]

I'm tapping out after this post because we're just running around in circles

I would classify A cherry picker as some one who always has an advantage in a fight and never takes on tough competition always looking for the easiest route

I wouldn't classify a fighter with the 2nd best resume among fighters his age a cherry picker. If he is what does that say about every other fighter ?

I'm not going to defend Salka. Everyone knows it was a sh.it fight but whatever at the time he fought him Garcia had already fought the guy everyone said he was afraid of and had beaten lots of good names

Before Moreales fought Garcia for a strap he gave Maidana all he could handle obviously he was long in the tooth. But this isn't like when Khan fought Barrera or when Ruslan fought Castillo , there was still some life in Moreales. The fact that Danny had to get his first strap off a future HOf is something he should get props for. Most guys going for their first straps fight absolute nobodies

Maybe we think different but to me facing old past prime Champions to some degree still hold some weight especially when in previous or after fights they show they can still beat fringe contenders. Maybe that's just me so while Zab , Moreales , Paulie , Guerrero where all past their expiration date I'd rather those fights then fighters that have never fought for a title or have shown they will never be in that class


Yeah having your first loss to a guy considered a P4P talent in his prime in a reasonably close fight shows you that Garcia was never any good. You realize how f.ucking ****** that sounds

I already said that Salka was a sh.it fight but to lump Vargas a guy who's only losses are to Spence and Garcia me who's a lower level contender and Herrera a guy who when he fought Garcia was a top 10 guy and who has beat Ruslan and Lundy and who had fights with Benividez and Garcia which could have gone either way makes you come across as a ******

Have a good one man

describes andre ward perfectly

i remember morales was shot when manny beat him....according to some. i wonder who they were...