Lara, Angulo, Kirkland were "Middleweights" before CANELO....

[GGG Gloveking]

See guys, for me it's really simple. If you weigh in between 147-154, you're fighting as a JMW. If you weigh between 154-160, you're a MW. When you tip the scale at 160-168, you are fighting as a SMW.

I don't have to add and invent terms like genuine middleweight or legit middleweight, or make excuses of its only a pound. I have clear lines on the scale that when you cross them, you go into the next division. No excuses, terms, calculators, or anything else needed.

Just a scale

[icha]

What? I'm not "giving a pass" based on anything. Maybe a one-off fight, but I didn't give GGG that benefit of the doubt. I said when GGG weighed in at 161, he was a SMW. Just like when Canelo fought above the JMW limit of 154, he was a MW.

so you actually considered khan and brook mws, even for that one night?? dont be so dense, they dont magically become mws and if anyone considered any of the 2 mws it was very naive..

[icha]

See guys, for me it's really simple. If you weigh in between 147-154, you're fighting as a JMW. If you weigh between 154-160, you're a MW. When you tip the scale at 160-168, you are fighting as a SMW.

I don't have to add and invent terms like genuine middleweight or legit middleweight, or make excuses of its only a pound. I have clear lines on the scale that when you cross them, you go into the next division. No excuses, terms, calculators, or anything else needed.

Just a scale

thats for you, thats your opinion and one can only respect it...

[GGG Gloveking]

so you actually considered khan and brook mws, even for that one night?? dont be so dense, they dont magically become mws and if anyone considered any of the 2 mws it was very naive..

Like I said, maybe a one off fight, which is what I'd consider both Brook and Khan, since Brook at least , went back down. But that's not the case with Mr Alvarez at all. He entered the MW division, has remained in the MW division, won a belt in the MW division, defended said belt in the MW division, vacated said belt in the MW division, and has returned to the middleweight division.

Edit: Let me add, I believe he is recognized as the lineal champ of the MW division

[icha]

Like I said, maybe a one off fight, which is what I'd consider both Brook and Khan, since Brook at least , went back down. But that's not the case with Mr Alvarez at all. He entered the MW division, has remained in the MW division, won a belt in the MW division, defended said belt in the MW division, vacated said belt in the MW division, and has returned to the middleweight division.

Edit: Let me add, I believe he is recognized as the lineal champ of the MW division

he is now, i do consider him a mw now too... once he fought chavez there was no going back imo... fighting other jmws or even wws wasnt enough for me...

[GGG Gloveking]

he is now, i do consider him a mw now too... once he fought chavez there was no going back imo... fighting other jmws or even wws wasnt enough for me...

I've been avoiding discussing Chavez knowing I'd be tempted to call Canelo a SMW...

[aboutfkntime]

See guys, for me it's really simple. If you weigh in between 147-154, you're fighting as a JMW. If you weigh between 154-160, you're a MW. When you tip the scale at 160-168, you are fighting as a SMW.

I don't have to add and invent terms like genuine middleweight or legit middleweight, or make excuses of its only a pound. I have clear lines on the scale that when you cross them, you go into the next division. No excuses, terms, calculators, or anything else needed.

Just a scale

put your calculator away, you little ***wit

if you think that 155lb Canelo was a GENUINE middleweight..... then you are a fool

and if you think that little 153lb Cotto was a GENUINE middleweight, then you are a fool's fool

and if you think that Kell Brook was a GENUINE middleweight..... then you will NEVER smarten up, and will be excuse-making loser for the rest of your miserable life lol

[aboutfkntime]

I've been avoiding discussing Chavez knowing I'd be tempted to call Canelo a SMW...

YOU ARE AN ABSOLUTE ***WIT KID


fcuk me..... I STRONGLY object to sharing the planet with you..... if it was up to me, you would be removed immediately

no wonder I have little/no faith in the human race

you unbelievable ****heads are holding the human race back

I think we are actually devolving because of excuse-making losers like you lol

[aboutfkntime]

we need a poll for WORST poster of 2017

Bob won the BEST poster, gratz to him..... but what about the bottom-of-the-barrel losers?

Shape Up, this golovking ***wit, and AK..... are the very bottom-of-the-barrel..... I see them as excitable spotty teenagers who have never been in a real fight in their lives

unbelievable morons, even worse than that Lou Cipher idiot

[GGG Gloveking]

YOU ARE AN ABSOLUTE ***WIT KID


fcuk me..... I STRONGLY object to sharing the planet with you..... if it was up to me, you would be removed immediately

no wonder I have little/no faith in the human race

you unbelievable ****heads are holding the human race back

I think we are actually devolving because of excuse-making losers like you lol

Let me tell you something you little piece of fuçking ****, I would break your b itch ass to fuçking pieces. I've been cool with you calling me all kinds of names for hours, but mother fuçker I'll be damned if your ***** ass is going to threaten me! Come to Richmond b itch, come fuçking remove me from earth. I've been keeping a cool head, but fuçk this sh it. Your fuçking fåggot was thinks you can say you'll kill somebody? The last b itch that said that was about 6'5 and 230, I hit him in his fuçking throat. I'll knock the fuçking piss out you if I ever saw you, piece of **** punk ass fåggot mother fuçker. All that mouth will get you hurt b itch