Lara, Angulo, Kirkland were "Middleweights" before CANELO....

[Lester Tutor]

For some reason, I thought the discussion was about Canelo fighting at 155 and his opponents at 155. When did it become about the start of his career.

Damn son, why you always being slow?

Read the thread title! That might help you out

[GGG Gloveking]

Read the thread title! That might help you out

Ok... Angulo, Lara, and Kirkland were middleweight before Canelo...

How does that relate to your last post?

Or is it that you know the truth about the matter, and you're trying to spin and deflect? Canelo is a MW, that has been fighting as a MW, against other experienced MWs. That's what Im gathering from this thread

[Lester Tutor]

Ok... Angulo, Lara, and Kirkland were middleweight before Canelo...

How does that relate to your last post?

Or is it that you know the truth about the matter, and you're trying to spin and deflect? Canelo is a MW, that has been fighting as a MW, against other experienced MWs. That's what Im gathering from this thread

Use your brain. Trace back the early years of when Kirkland or Angulo had been fighting above 155! From 2005-2010 Canelo was a Welterweight.

From 2005 Angulo has always been fighting as SWW and Middleweight, doesn't mean Angulo was a seasoned Middleweight. From 2006, same thing is applied to Kirkland.

From 2008, Lara has been fighting from 154+lbs but is a seasoned SWW.

Just because these fighters dipped above 154 doesn't mean they are Middleweights. Hence the trolling of the title.

Saul Alvarez is NOW a Middleweight.

[GGG Gloveking]

Use your brain. Trace back the early years of when Kirkland or Angulo had been fighting above 155! From 2005-2010 Canelo was a Welterweight.

From 2005 Angulo has always been fighting as SWW and Middleweight, doesn't mean Angulo was a seasoned Middleweight. From 2006, same thing is applied to Kirkland.

From 2008, Lara has been fighting from 154+lbs but is a seasoned SWW.

Just because these fighters dipped above 154 doesn't mean they are Middleweights. Hence the trolling of the title.

Saul Alvarez is NOW a Middleweight.

Seems like you like to make sh it up as you go along. This is the first mention in 9 pages over what, 2 or 3 days, that you mention anything about what years those guys fought in. The only mention I saw is when you mentioned ggg fighting as a smw back in 2008. All you really mentioned was weights.

Now, I'm supposed to use ESP and decipher what you meant when you were saying something else. I guess it was too much for you to be clear and concise the first time

[Lester Tutor]

Seems like you like to make sh it up as you go along. This is the first mention in 9 pages over what, 2 or 3 days, that you mention anything about what years those guys fought in. The only mention I saw is when you mentioned ggg fighting as a smw back in 2008. All you really mentioned was weights.

Now, I'm supposed to use ESP and decipher what you meant when you were saying something else. I guess it was too much for you to be clear and concise the first time

Lol. You're in idiot. I listed all their fights above 155 in my first post... go to boxrec and look at the year of those bouts...

Hence the thread title and "before."

I told you to use your brain, bruh

[GGG Gloveking]

Lol. You're in idiot. I listed all their fights above 155 in my first post... go to boxrec and look at the year of those bouts...

Hence the thread title and "before."

I told you to use your brain, bruh

Wait.... so I'm an idiot (I really love how you guys just love to throw insults around rather than try to just talk boxing) because you give some information and I'm supposed to go gather other information based on that, rather than you simply providing the info you really want to talk about. Seriously, you give a list of weights, even talking about GGG being a smw because he weighted 161 in 2008, and 9 pages later it becomes, "oh, I was really talking about what year the other guys were fighting in".

I'm at the point that I don't mind the back and forth banter with you, but please, stay coherent. Are we talking about weight classes or calendar years?

[Lester Tutor]

Wait.... so I'm an idiot (I really love how you guys just love to throw insults around rather than try to just talk boxing)

Stopped reading here.

Your dumbass pulled the race card about "whitey" Lemieux (as you called it)...that I'm opposed to a white fighter in Lemieux ffs, all because I picked Rungvisai as my KO of the year

[ruedboy]

You add words like genuine or legit to qualify middleweight because you know your argument is sh it. Where in boxing lexicon is genuine middleweight defined, and what is the alternative term? Illegitimate middleweight? Faux middleweight? Fugazi middleweight?

Or is it... fuçking puzzy hiding at 155 from GGG... yeah, that's the term

It's real simple you got your genuine MW's and your fake MW's, also your counterfeit MW's, bogus MW's , phony MW's, artificial MW's and the dreaded pseudo-MW's.

[GGG Gloveking]

Stopped reading here.

Your dumbass pulled the race card about "whitey" Lemieux (as you called it)...that I'm opposed to a white fighter in Lemieux ffs, all because I picked Rungvisai as my KO of the year

If that isn't the pot calling the kettle Black-Nelo...or Floma, or lil g, or what other names do you got for what appear to be "white" fighters? Mofo you be been trolling all of us for a long time so please don't try to take the high road when your ass gets trolled back.

And besides that, you make personal attacks on me all the time, dude. All the damn time. Don't get mad when I give it back to you. You want to talk boxing? You want to throw insults? I can do either with you.

[GGG Gloveking]

It's real simple you got your genuine MW's and your fake MW's, also your counterfeit MW's, bogus MW's , phony MW's, artificial MW's and the dreaded pseudo-MW's.

Sulaiman just asked if he can make a belt for each of those classes...

Genuine, 160
Fake, 159
Counterfeit, 158
Bogus, 157
Phony, 156
Artificial, 155
Pseudo, 154-155

Looks like Canelo still had 4 divisions to go