Losses that made a fighter change their entire lives

[daggum]

This makes no sense. Mayweather retired after his 5/2007 fight with De La Hoya. He was in negotiations for a rematch after that.

In June 2007, Margarito lost to PWill. It would have been easy to sidestep Margarito without retiring.

did margarito disappear off the face of the earth after losing one fight? typical floyd fanboy logic. marg was still around and he proved that by becoming the #1 welterweight after losing. he also retired to avoid cotto who was the main guy at the time. just bad style match ups for him. if they had counter punching styles like marquez or canelo maybe he stays. we learned from floyd sometimes its the fights you dont take that end up helping your career. obv this is cowardly but hey it worked

[travestyny]

well he had to rematch him since everyone knew he lost and would have hounded him to death if he ducked the rematch. imagine the pac-floyd ducking but a lot worse. also floyd was probably trying to convince himself that he was injured and thats why he wasnt able to dominate his first opponent but that wasnt the case as he won a close rematch. those two fights brought him back to earth and he never really took a challenge like castillo again. a drained canelo maybe but that was a great stylistic matchup against a much slower counter puncher.

Trying to convince himself that he was injured? The corner mentions the injury after the very first round. It's all on videotape.

And you mention pac/floyd ducking, but the evidence seems to point to Pac's side ducking it more than Floyd's side. Sorry, bro. Just not agreeing with you here. I could be wrong, but aren't you one of the posters who always says that he will avoid such and such fighter and then when he chooses them you pick him to lose? I could be wrong, but just trying to figure out what your angle is here. Seems you're coming at this from a warped angle.

[Redd Foxx]

It was a very productive loss. The tom foolery that went on in that ring that night was ridiculous though.

That's pro boxing though.
It was very productive. Can you imagine if that didn't happen until say... now? It would be a crushing loss. Good that he went through it early.

[travestyny]

did margarito disappear off the face of the earth after losing one fight? typical floyd fanboy logic. marg was still around and he proved that by becoming the #1 welterweight after losing. he also retired to avoid cotto who was the main guy at the time. just bad style match ups for him. if they had counter punching styles like marquez or canelo maybe he stays. we learned from floyd sometimes its the fights you dont take that end up helping your career. obv this is cowardly but hey it worked

Again, makes no sense. He was already set to rematch De La Hoya at the time that he retired, so I don't know how that equates to ducking someone. You are saying that he knew Mosley was going to Obliterate Margarito? Then he fights the guy who obliterated Margarito his next fight? Makes no sense.


He didn't retire to avoid Cotto. In fact, he was considering renewing with Top Rank if they would guarantee him Cotto in the contract.

Arum said while Mayweather would have taken the $8 million to fight Margarito, he asked for a $10 million guarantee to fight opponents such as Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton, when Arum was only willing to guarantee $7 million.

http://www.espn.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=2420382

[Raggamuffin]

What's up with the weirdo answers, lmao. I mean guys are using Margarito and Castillo for odd reasons lmao. Pac and Margarito got their ****s knocked in a few times but these clowns feel compelled to make phony comments out of anger lmao.

[Raggamuffin]

Trying to convince himself that he was injured? The corner mentions the injury after the very first round. It's all on videotape.

And you mention pac/floyd ducking, but the evidence seems to point to Pac's side ducking it more than Floyd's side. Sorry, bro. Just not agreeing with you here. I could be wrong, but aren't you one of the posters who always says that he will avoid such and such fighter and then when he chooses them you pick him to lose? I could be wrong, but just trying to figure out what your angle is here. Seems you're coming at this from a warped angle.

He's a worthless troll. I mean look at what he's arguing lmao. He is not even on topic lol...

[jmrf4435]

Wlads first bad KO loss

He stopped whorring and going to brothels in eastern europe-Got serious with hayden penetiere and said it helped him focus

[pasawayako]

Floyd-Castillo. To make sure floyd will win in the rematch he started using PEDS and after that he carefully cherry pick and handicapped his opponent.

[daggum]

Again, makes no sense. He was already set to rematch De La Hoya at the time that he retired, so I don't know how that equates to ducking someone. You are saying that he knew Mosley was going to Obliterate Margarito? Then he fights the guy who obliterated Margarito his next fight? Makes no sense.


He didn't retire to avoid Cotto. In fact, he was considering renewing with Top Rank if they would guarantee him Cotto in the contract.

well you are completely ignoring how he ducked margarito before. he fought sharmba for 3 instead of 7 for margarito. took less to fight judah as well so lets not pretend he was seeking the biggest money fights.

i dont know what the hoya-floyd rematch has to do with floyd ducking marg? he wasnt willing to fight hoya in a rematch, marg, or cotto. thats the whole point. he barely beat hoya in the first fight if you dont remember. there were no good cherry picks so he retired only to return when better cherries presented themselves in the form of an old little marquez and an old faded mosley among others.

i think you are getting the time line wrong. mosley beat marg in january of 2009. floyd didnt announce his comeback until may of 2009. yes he fought a 39 year old mosley instead of margarito. its called styles. marg is a high volume pressure fighter. mosley is an old guy who held the entire marg fight and marg kept walking into his power. different fighters.

he was never considering renewing with top rank. he deliberately priced himself out in order to leave. remember he wanted a 20 million guarantee to fight hoya(left that part out strangely). obv that was insanity. floyd only got a 10 million guarantee when he actaully fought hoya later to prove how insane that was. he wanted to leave so he asked for the impossible. not sure why you think he was trying to fight cotto when he made impossible demands.

[billeau2]

well you are completely ignoring how he ducked margarito before. he fought sharmba for 3 instead of 7 for margarito. took less to fight judah as well so lets not pretend he was seeking the biggest money fights.

i dont know what the hoya-floyd rematch has to do with floyd ducking marg? he didnt' want to fight hoya in a rematch, marg, or cotto. thats the whole point. he barely beat hoya in the first fight if you dont remember.

i think you are getting the time line wrong. mosley beat marg in january of 2009. floyd didnt announce his comeback until may of 2009. yes he fought a 39 year old mosley instead of margarito. its called styles. marg is a high volume pressure fighter. mosley is an old guy who held the entire marg fight and marg kept walking into his power. different fighters.

he was never considering renewing with top rank. he deliberately priced himself out in order to leave. remember he wanted a 20 million guarantee to fight hoya. obv that was insanity. floyd only got a 10 million guarantee when he actaully fought hoya later to prove how insane that was. he wanted to leave so he asked for the impossible. not sure why you think he was trying to fight cotto when he made impossible demands.

It is beyond ****** to claim that floyd ducked Margarito, for any conceviable time, or reason. Margarito was a flash in the pan, tough fight, with no return of investment. There was little money in this fight, it was going to be bruising winning or losing, and margarito was never even a level below floyd, more like a few levels below.

You and every idiot who thinks Floyd ducked Margarito should tell us about all the heavy weights that ducked Tex Cobb... Floyd beat Gatti who was better than marg and generated a great gate.