Loma vs floyd

[BoxingIsGreat]

you will get killed to death with red k for making this fantasy prediction. floyd never fought anyone like loma. hell prime floyd was struggling to deal with zab judah. i dont think he would know what to do. he was used to predictable come forward slow fighters. meanwhile loma has destroyed walters, russel jr, and rigo so he would be prepared.

[daggum]

[daggum]

I stopped reading right there. Floyd at 130 was a monster. No way.

I'll not Red K you.

and what loma like fighters did floyd beat at 130? the speedy corrales? the matrix like genaro hernandez? slick justin juuko?

[BoxingIsGreat]

One of my favorites, but not sure he would make through his next few fights intact, as the competition moves to another level- bigger, better fighters. I see Loma retiring with at least 3 or 4 losses, or more, if he's greedy.

Quit the Floyd comparison. Floyd at 130 would laugh at all Loma's movements.

[HarvardBlue]

floyd couldnt figure out castillo either. in fact castillo dominated the second half of the fight so what happene to that high iq and game plan? those type of fighters are just hard for light punchers to fight. they are always in your face and they dont give you time to think or adjust. a guy like salido i would think is especially hard because he throws unpredictable punches from all crazy angles. they both lost to tough fighters but floyd and loma fight nothing like salido and castillo so bringing them up for a loma-floyd fight doesnt make much sense.

Man, you're actually using logic for once and not just blind hatred for Mayweather. I watched the first 8 rounds of Mayweather/Castillo and it was obvious his shoulder was hurt. You could tell by the awkward way he was throwing his jab. With that being said from what I saw he was winning the fight. Unless Castillo totally blew him away in the last 4 rounds then I don't think it was a robbery. I agree Salido was unpredictable but he's been beat by lesser fighters than Lomachenko so it's no excuse. Lomachenko was tentative until late in the fight.

Btw, I never finished watching the Mayweather because it wasn't that good of a fight, Mayweather was obviously hurt, and I was convinced by what I saw that the fight wasn't a robbery. At least Mayweather was able to make up for his "blemish."

Just out of curiosity do you think Lomachenko would do well against a prime Castillo?

[BoxingIsGreat]

and what loma like fighters did floyd beat at 130? the speedy corrales? the matrix like genaro hernandez? slick justin juuko?

What Floyd like fighter has Loma beat? I didn't wanna stoop that low, but oh well..

[R-Hand Southpaw]

I stopped reading right there. Floyd at 130 was a monster. No way.

I'll not Red K you.

Well you missed pretty much my whole argument while providing nothing in return to why exactly Mayweather was a monster other than he was.

What exact reasons you expect Floyd to win? You listed none. How would Floyd counter Loma and what has he shown to show he can do said counters? Has he fought someone with a similar style and won?

You listed nothing.

Its no different for when Loma fought Rigo. Some of us thought Loma would dominate rigo easy. The reasons? Age. Hand speed. Size. And most importantly, style. Loma's style is in my opinion perfect for exposing defensive type boxer because unlike them, loma is creating offense by himself instead waiting to counter punch.

A counter puncher like Floyd or rigo waits to counter. It's not the same as guys like Tyson. One makes you miss going forward the other back. But back to the point, Floyd will have to react to everything Loma throws even if he doesn't. Floyd isn't the brawler type boxer so he isn't gonna engage, he will wait for his moment. But loma has shown he can break people's rhythm with his feints. This is pretty much how he wins rounds with ring generalship . He makes you react knowing you will react. He leads the fight and dictates the pace. Again, see rigo. Rigo wanted to slow the pace down. He wanted steady, but anyone could see when Loma pushed the pace.

Now you could say that Floyd can't have his rhythm broken, or hes the one leading the fight or etc, but you have to give examples of when and how.

Does this make sense?

[R-Hand Southpaw]

What Floyd like fighter has Loma beat? I didn't wanna stoop that low, but oh well..

Rigo?

Top 10 p4p on a lot of people's lists. Hailed as a defensive genius with amazing footwork and power. (Until Loma smoked him.)

Actually has stats to back up those opinions too.

Compubox defense numbers supposdly had him ranked right next to Loma in terms of defensive hit %.

Rigo is very much Floyd like. Prefers to win a couple rounds and coast to victory. Primary defensive fighters. Use of crouching and leaning.

Now, is he a clone? Absolutely not. But one would be lying to himself or herself if they were to say Rigo didn't showcase some of Floyds skills.

Was he as good as floyd? Probably not. But loma showed he had the fundamentals to combat that style of combat.

Now flip the script again. Want to show us a case where Floyd beat a Loma like fighter?

[b00g13man]

Rigo?

Top 10 p4p on a lot of people's lists. Hailed as a defensive genius with amazing footwork and power. (Until Loma smoked him.)

Actually has stats to back up those opinions too.

Compubox defense numbers supposdly had him ranked right next to Loma in terms of defensive hit %.

Rigo is very much Floyd like. Prefers to win a couple rounds and coast to victory. Primary defensive fighters. Use of crouching and leaning.

Now, is he a clone? Absolutely not. But one would be lying to himself or herself if they were to say Rigo didn't showcase some of Floyds skills.

Was he as good as floyd? Probably not. But loma showed he had the fundamentals to combat that style of combat.

Now flip the script again. Want to show us a case where Floyd beat a Loma like fighter?

Stop embarrassing yourself. You've clearly never seen Floyd at 130.

[Mr Objecitivity]

I'm going to need to perform an in depth film study of both boxers at 130 pounds before I can pass judgement as to who would win in this hypothetical fantasy match up.

At the moment, I have it 50/50 which could go either way. Both fairly even, offensively and defensively despite both being stylistically different from each other.