Loma vs floyd

[john l]

Has OP ever seen a Floyd fight? Prime Floyd was unbeatable. This gotta be troll tread right?

Loma is something special although I don't think he beats Floyd at 130.But I think if he stays close to 130 as I don't think he has body type/style for higher weights he could be easy an ATG.I just think 126--130 is where he needs to stay.And there is nothing wrong with that.I don't think anybody that knows would not consider Hagler one of the true greats and many others who just dominated their weight.I think doing that most of time harder than jumping div cherry picking titles and more importantly certain styles.To hold down a div you have to fight everyone who comes along.

[satiev1]

I'm a newer boxing fan but in the short time I've watched boxing i think I've got a good grasp on the concept and art of it.

That being said, let's get back to the title.

Personally I think Loma beats Floyd in his prime. Crazy? Probably, but I'm no fan boy and i like objectivity and it seems more often than not people. People here seem to choose fighters based on race, country if origin, or just straight fanboyism. That's wrong.

That being said, objectively I think Loma wins based solely on his style. With Loma's win vs Rigo, it showcased his ability to break defenses people think are impenetrable. Sure, rigos defense is not as good as floyds, but he figured out what no one could with EASE.

Take into account Floyds main defense is his Philly shell, crouching, and counter punching. All these things Loma dictates in a fight.

When he's in his Philly shell its non effective against a southpaw like Loma because straight lefts and because Loma just would walk around Floyd with his movement. We all saw he had problems defending this against McGregor. He was so ineffective at defending against this he should have lost a point for intentionally turning the back of his head towards McGregor.

How would be defend against this?

Then consider the fact that Floyd is a straight up counter puncher relying the mistakes and over commitment of his opponents. Loma doesn't make a lot of mistakes and he hardly ever over commits. If anything I can't see a scenario where Mayweather could beat Loma's feints. It would look just like how rigo looked. Not sure where the attack is coming from, reacting to everything.

Could Floyd muster enough offense alone to win? I just can't see it. Plus, he isn't a big puncher either.

Loma has very good defense. #1 rated by compubox and is defensively responsible. I just can't see flyod over coming that. It would probably be a low hitting affair just like rigo v Loma.

Crouching. Loma showed how to best this. Lean on them. I doubt Floyd uses his lean/pivot technique because Loma already knows how to beat this. Lean, rotate/pivot, follow up with a cross. If they run follow with a dempsy double shift to close the distance.

So if you're a Floyd fan, how do you think he wins? I can only see floyd being better in MAYBE reaction speed, reach, but he loses when styles are compared.

Every style has strengths and weaknesses and so far the most effective against Floyd has been making the boxing match into a fight. Lots of punches and smothering the opponent. But I think Loma's style would run circles around Floyd.

I agree. Lomachenko beats floyd in his prime. People talk about the salido loss in his 2nd fight. Well about the castillo fight which majority thought he lost as a seasoned veteran.

[pasawayako]

A prime floyd already beat by castillo. A ****ing class B at best fighter.

[pasawayako]

If castillo can beat floyd just imagine what loma will do to a 130 prime floyd. Probably LOMA will make floyd quit like he did to rigo.

[TonyGe]

Too early to rate Lomo that high. What happens when he gets hurt or cut. I don't know. Floyd who I'm not a fan of was a trememdous fighter at the lower weight classes. Money May that fought at the heavier weights would get his ass kicked by Pretty Boy Floyd. So rating Lomo that high against Floyd or Pac for that matter is way premature.

[Robbie Barrett]

A prime floyd already beat by castillo. A ****ing class B at best fighter.

If Castillo was class B then what the **** is Salido?

[GorillaDog]

I agree. Lomachenko beats floyd in his prime. People talk about the salido loss in his 2nd fight. Well about the castillo fight which majority thought he lost as a seasoned veteran.

Floyd beat Castillo's ass with one hand. Cleaner more effective punches landed. Outworked him with the jab. People going full ****** with HBO commentary/Lederman score card again. Close fight Mayweather but won clearly imo. Go watch fight on mute. People also thought Oscar beat Mayweather in some fantasy world b/c of HBO commentary. Castillo is also a A+ fighter. People that say otherwise DKSAB.

If were talking Prime for prime Salido loss don't mean **** to Lomachenko. Lomachenko only loss b/c he was green. Bhop loss to a 0-0 fighter and he's atg middle weight. Lineal Champ Adonis got ktfo by a guy that has more losses than wins.

[pasawayako]

If Castillo was class B then what the **** is Salido?

Salido beat loma with his dirty tactics while castillo beat floyd in a clean fight and floyd is the one who use dirty tactics using his elbows.

[R-Hand Southpaw]

I'm not trying to make excuses for Loma but people say things like, he's only 10-1 it's only half true.

A lot if the great fighters in boxing have large resumes of bums they fought until they became relevant. Loma has some bums on his list, like two or three, but like 10 of those were world title fights. Even a world title fight against a bum is a better fight than beating up a scrub.

His resume already looks like the back half of floyds.

His resume is only shorter because he became pro later. Some amateurs are probably better than some pros, the difference is they don't get payed like the pros do.

I asked if anyone could show me how Floyd could win and I haven't even gotten anything.

The best defense was, maybe he could walk Loma down. But how? Sure Floyd is bigger but he's not that much bigger especially at 130-135.

Personally I don't believe Loma can fight over 140. 140 is tops if he makes it that far because if his narrow build.

If Floyd tried to walk Loma down he still has to deal with the feints and movement. If anything Loma is an expert with hand and sight manipulation.

I'm not saying Loma is invincible at all Nu st his style isn't weak to floyds. If anything the style I see besting Loma is peekaboo style.

You have to always be in his face and not allow him to set the pace by setting your pace.

Loma seems to be a master at setting the pace. Against rigo his broken rhythm he showcased this exact still. You could see he never let rigo set and find his rhythm always changing this spot and the feints especially. You knew who was controlling the fight.

[daggum]

floyd was unbeatable in his prime!!! what a great break down of the fight. just name some tricky southpaws who were great boxers that floyd beat. corley and judah? how good did he look in those fights? oh ok like garbage. now hes going up against someone wth ten times more skill. this looks like a retirement, flat fee kill the fight type of deal if loma was around