Loma vs floyd

[R-Hand Southpaw]

I'm a newer boxing fan but in the short time I've watched boxing i think I've got a good grasp on the concept and art of it.

That being said, let's get back to the title.

Personally I think Loma beats Floyd in his prime. Crazy? Probably, but I'm no fan boy and i like objectivity and it seems more often than not people. People here seem to choose fighters based on race, country if origin, or just straight fanboyism. That's wrong.

That being said, objectively I think Loma wins based solely on his style. With Loma's win vs Rigo, it showcased his ability to break defenses people think are impenetrable. Sure, rigos defense is not as good as floyds, but he figured out what no one could with EASE.

Take into account Floyds main defense is his Philly shell, crouching, and counter punching. All these things Loma dictates in a fight.

When he's in his Philly shell its non effective against a southpaw like Loma because straight lefts and because Loma just would walk around Floyd with his movement. We all saw he had problems defending this against McGregor. He was so ineffective at defending against this he should have lost a point for intentionally turning the back of his head towards McGregor.

How would be defend against this?

Then consider the fact that Floyd is a straight up counter puncher relying the mistakes and over commitment of his opponents. Loma doesn't make a lot of mistakes and he hardly ever over commits. If anything I can't see a scenario where Mayweather could beat Loma's feints. It would look just like how rigo looked. Not sure where the attack is coming from, reacting to everything.

Could Floyd muster enough offense alone to win? I just can't see it. Plus, he isn't a big puncher either.

Loma has very good defense. #1 rated by compubox and is defensively responsible. I just can't see flyod over coming that. It would probably be a low hitting affair just like rigo v Loma.

Crouching. Loma showed how to best this. Lean on them. I doubt Floyd uses his lean/pivot technique because Loma already knows how to beat this. Lean, rotate/pivot, follow up with a cross. If they run follow with a dempsy double shift to close the distance.

So if you're a Floyd fan, how do you think he wins? I can only see floyd being better in MAYBE reaction speed, reach, but he loses when styles are compared.

Every style has strengths and weaknesses and so far the most effective against Floyd has been making the boxing match into a fight. Lots of punches and smothering the opponent. But I think Loma's style would run circles around Floyd.

[daggum]

you will get killed to death with red k for making this fantasy prediction. floyd never fought anyone like loma. hell prime floyd was struggling to deal with zab judah. i dont think he would know what to do. he was used to predictable come forward slow fighters. meanwhile loma has destroyed walters, russel jr, and rigo so he would be prepared.

[pasawayako]

Lol. Just mentioning LOMA will make floyd pee in his pants.

IMHO. Loma is just too much for floyd in offense and defense.

[Robbie Barrett]

I'm a newer boxing fan but in the short time I've watched boxing i think I've got a good grasp on the concept and art of it.

That being said, let's get back to the title.

Personally I think Loma beats Floyd in his prime. Crazy? Probably, but I'm no fan boy and i like objectivity and it seems more often than not people. People here seem to choose fighters based on race, country if origin, or just straight fanboyism. That's wrong.

That being said, objectively I think Loma wins based solely on his style. With Loma's win vs Rigo, it showcased his ability to break defenses people think are impenetrable. Sure, rigos defense is not as good as floyds, but he figured out what no one could with EASE.

Take into account Floyds main defense is his Philly shell, crouching, and counter punching. All these things Loma dictates in a fight.

When he's in his Philly shell its non effective against a southpaw like Loma because straight lefts and because Loma just would walk around Floyd with his movement. We all saw he had problems defending this against McGregor. He was so ineffective at defending against this he should have lost a point for intentionally turning the back of his head towards McGregor.

How would be defend against this?

Then consider the fact that Floyd is a straight up counter puncher relying the mistakes and over commitment of his opponents. Loma doesn't make a lot of mistakes and he hardly ever over commits. If anything I can't see a scenario where Mayweather could beat Loma's feints. It would look just like how rigo looked. Not sure where the attack is coming from, reacting to everything.

Could Floyd muster enough offense alone to win? I just can't see it. Plus, he isn't a big puncher either.

Loma has very good defense. #1 rated by compubox and is defensively responsible. I just can't see flyod over coming that. It would probably be a low hitting affair just like rigo v Loma.

Crouching. Loma showed how to best this. Lean on them. I doubt Floyd uses his lean/pivot technique because Loma already knows how to beat this. Lean, rotate/pivot, follow up with a cross. If they run follow with a dempsy double shift to close the distance.

So if you're a Floyd fan, how do you think he wins? I can only see floyd being better in MAYBE reaction speed, reach, but he loses when styles are compared.

Every style has strengths and weaknesses and so far the most effective against Floyd has been making the boxing match into a fight. Lots of punches and smothering the opponent. But I think Loma's style would run circles around Floyd.

Go watch some Mayweather fights at 130 and 135 and realise how ****** you are. Mayweather was much bigger, stronger, faster and greater power. He had great offence and defence. Loma is a pillow fisted fighter, Mayweather would have toyed with him.

[Lomasexual]

I'm not quite ready to say that Loma would be able to beat Floyd. I'll make a call either way after a few more fights.

Don't dismiss Floyd's offense too quickly. He used to be a very, very good offensive fighter until his hands started to get damaged.

[Scary_canary]

Are you talkin about floyd now, or pretty boy @130,, and I liked your breakdown but you can't use anything that happened in the may/mac fight as a reference, that was a show that floyd put on nothing more/nothing less

[travestyny]

I'm a newer boxing fan but in the short time I've watched boxing i think I've got a good grasp on the concept and art of it.

That being said, let's get back to the title.

Personally I think Loma beats Floyd in his prime. Crazy? Probably, but I'm no fan boy and i like objectivity and it seems more often than not people. People here seem to choose fighters based on race, country if origin, or just straight fanboyism. That's wrong.

That being said, objectively I think Loma wins based solely on his style. With Loma's win vs Rigo, it showcased his ability to break defenses people think are impenetrable. Sure, rigos defense is not as good as floyds, but he figured out what no one could with EASE.

Take into account Floyds main defense is his Philly shell, crouching, and counter punching. All these things Loma dictates in a fight.

When he's in his Philly shell its non effective against a southpaw like Loma because straight lefts and because Loma just would walk around Floyd with his movement. We all saw he had problems defending this against McGregor. He was so ineffective at defending against this he should have lost a point for intentionally turning the back of his head towards McGregor.

How would be defend against this?

Then consider the fact that Floyd is a straight up counter puncher relying the mistakes and over commitment of his opponents. Loma doesn't make a lot of mistakes and he hardly ever over commits. If anything I can't see a scenario where Mayweather could beat Loma's feints. It would look just like how rigo looked. Not sure where the attack is coming from, reacting to everything.

Could Floyd muster enough offense alone to win? I just can't see it. Plus, he isn't a big puncher either.

Loma has very good defense. #1 rated by compubox and is defensively responsible. I just can't see flyod over coming that. It would probably be a low hitting affair just like rigo v Loma.

Crouching. Loma showed how to best this. Lean on them. I doubt Floyd uses his lean/pivot technique because Loma already knows how to beat this. Lean, rotate/pivot, follow up with a cross. If they run follow with a dempsy double shift to close the distance.

So if you're a Floyd fan, how do you think he wins? I can only see floyd being better in MAYBE reaction speed, reach, but he loses when styles are compared.

Every style has strengths and weaknesses and so far the most effective against Floyd has been making the boxing match into a fight. Lots of punches and smothering the opponent. But I think Loma's style would run circles around Floyd.

At what weight would you like this fantasy match to happen? Regardless of weight, for me I think the likely outcome is Floyd winning until we see some more from Lomachenko, but still interested in what weight you are speaking of.

Let me put it this way. He has 11 pro fights and you are comparing him to someone that is 50-0. I think this conversation is way premature.

[john l]

I'm a newer boxing fan but in the short time I've watched boxing i think I've got a good grasp on the concept and art of it.

That being said, let's get back to the title.

Personally I think Loma beats Floyd in his prime. Crazy? Probably, but I'm no fan boy and i like objectivity and it seems more often than not people. People here seem to choose fighters based on race, country if origin, or just straight fanboyism. That's wrong.

That being said, objectively I think Loma wins based solely on his style. With Loma's win vs Rigo, it showcased his ability to break defenses people think are impenetrable. Sure, rigos defense is not as good as floyds, but he figured out what no one could with EASE.

Take into account Floyds main defense is his Philly shell, crouching, and counter punching. All these things Loma dictates in a fight.

When he's in his Philly shell its non effective against a southpaw like Loma because straight lefts and because Loma just would walk around Floyd with his movement. We all saw he had problems defending this against McGregor. He was so ineffective at defending against this he should have lost a point for intentionally turning the back of his head towards McGregor.

How would be defend against this?

Then consider the fact that Floyd is a straight up counter puncher relying the mistakes and over commitment of his opponents. Loma doesn't make a lot of mistakes and he hardly ever over commits. If anything I can't see a scenario where Mayweather could beat Loma's feints. It would look just like how rigo looked. Not sure where the attack is coming from, reacting to everything.

Could Floyd muster enough offense alone to win? I just can't see it. Plus, he isn't a big puncher either.

Loma has very good defense. #1 rated by compubox and is defensively responsible. I just can't see flyod over coming that. It would probably be a low hitting affair just like rigo v Loma.

Crouching. Loma showed how to best this. Lean on them. I doubt Floyd uses his lean/pivot technique because Loma already knows how to beat this. Lean, rotate/pivot, follow up with a cross. If they run follow with a dempsy double shift to close the distance.

So if you're a Floyd fan, how do you think he wins? I can only see floyd being better in MAYBE reaction speed, reach, but he loses when styles are compared.

Every style has strengths and weaknesses and so far the most effective against Floyd has been making the boxing match into a fight. Lots of punches and smothering the opponent. But I think Loma's style would run circles around Floyd.

Well put out point and post.But I disagree Floyd defence was not JUST the phill shell there were fights like Mosley and others were he walked them down.And Rigo did not have the offence with his defence.And Floyd was the much better puncher at 130.And also guys whose offence flows of combo's will see the # of punches go way down.Its there to see in fights with guys like Floyd and Sweet pea and the reason being that if you miss punch#1 it puts you out of poss for punch # 2-3-4.I think Loma is really something but I don't see him beating Floyd even in a PFP sence.Because this is also one of the very few fights where Floyd would also have a size advantage.

[GorillaDog]

Has OP ever seen a Floyd fight? Prime Floyd was unbeatable. This gotta be troll tread right?

[john l]

At what weight would you like this fantasy match to happen? Regardless of weight, for me I think the likely outcome is Floyd winning until we see some more from Lomachenko, but still interested in what weight you are speaking of.

Let me put it this way. He has 11 pro fights and you are comparing him to someone that is 50-0. I think this conversation is way premature.

I preety sure he means 130.There was a big story last weak with Dan Rafeal saying at 130 Loma COULD be a very tough fight for Floyd.I agree that its still a little too early and from what ive seen so far I would go with Mayweather for reason I posted above.