Comments Thread For: Team Porter To Keith Thurman: We'll Be Waiting Motherf***er!

[IBOX4LIFE]

You're right.........

Agree with everything, especially the bold. I'm still skeptical about him facing Vargas coming off the injury and layoff also. Thurman is favored, but it's not the "tune-up" he said he was looking for. Maybe he takes that fight and then Porter, to save face because he's catching so much flack for avoiding Spence?



If I'm correct, there is no mandatory for the IBF, which means Spence can make voluntary defenses. If Porter wanted a title fight, he could get one....sadly, he just wants no part of Spence, and his reasoning is ******. He says he already held the IBF title, and has no interest in fighting for it. Truth is, he knows it's the tougher title to win, because of who holds it.

I forgot Ponomarev, I think that's his name, vacated or passed on his manadatory position to fight Spence, so yes you are correct, there are two openings at the top, if I am not mistaken at 147 IBF.

[Scipio2009]

This Haymon fighters keep saying they can’t fight each other . They were unable to come to agreement. How does this constantly happen they have the same promoter in Haymon. Then if it’s Top Rank or Golden Boy they say they can’t fight cuz of promoter politics. Then they end up fighting washed up fighters like Guerrero, Rios, Vargas or fighters ranked 125 Salka.

Fighters under Haymon control their own careers; Haymon/management work out the contracts and all that, but Haymon's sole job is to present his fighters with the opportunities and leave it to them to decide.

Danny Garcia fought Keith Thurman, suffering his first defeat, in a 7-5 fight, and basically decided to take the year off; with his finances well situated, he was free to rest his body, rest his mind, and enjoy his young family for a bit. Now that he's ready to fight, he can get back to the path he likely would've been on without the time off.

Shawn Porter, after losing to Keith Thurman close, focused simply on putting himself back into position to fight Keith Thurman again; the Berto fight made him top WBC challenger, and the Granados fight made him WBC mandatory to Thurman. With that being the only fight that Porter wants, he's basically taken himself of the table until that happens (with Thurman having his return fight by April, he'll end up having to fight either Porter or Spence before October, no matter how you cut it; if the Spence fight gets agreed to, I have no doubt that Shawn Porter then takes a fight, now knowing that he's for sure the next fight for the winner).

Simply follow the pecking order, and understand that, barring mandatories, things work top-down; as things currently stand, the order of the top 5 welterweights seems to be Thurman, Garcia, Spence, Khan, and then Porter. Thurman makes his choice and so on (with Spence basically being the boogeyman of the division, his choices get limited; Khan doesn't seem like he wants to fight anyone even remotely good at this point).

Top Rank gives their fighters no such options; Bob picks the fights, the management of the fighter tries to get the best money for Bob's fight, and then they fight; if you say no to Arum's pick, or argue too much over the money, Arum pulls the fight, sits you at home, and let's your family starve until you're ready to accept Arum's fight

[Afi23]

Fighters under Haymon control their own careers; Haymon/management work out the contracts and all that, but Haymon's sole job is to present his fighters with the opportunities and leave it to them to decide.

Danny Garcia fought Keith Thurman, suffering his first defeat, in a 7-5 fight, and basically decided to take the year off; with his finances well situated, he was free to rest his body, rest his mind, and enjoy his young family for a bit. Now that he's ready to fight, he can get back to the path he likely would've been on without the time off.

Shawn Porter, after losing to Keith Thurman close, focused simply on putting himself back into position to fight Keith Thurman again; the Berto fight made him top WBC challenger, and the Granados fight made him WBC mandatory to Thurman. With that being the only fight that Porter wants, he's basically taken himself of the table until that happens (with Thurman having his return fight by April, he'll end up having to fight either Porter or Spence before October, no matter how you cut it; if the Spence fight gets agreed to, I have no doubt that Shawn Porter then takes a fight, now knowing that he's for sure the next fight for the winner).

Simply follow the pecking order, and understand that, barring mandatories, things work top-down; as things currently stand, the order of the top 5 welterweights seems to be Thurman, Garcia, Spence, Khan, and then Porter. Thurman makes his choice and so on (with Spence basically being the boogeyman of the division, his choices get limited; Khan doesn't seem like he wants to fight anyone even remotely good at this point).

Top Rank gives their fighters no such options; Bob picks the fights, the management of the fighter tries to get the best money for Bob's fight, and then they fight; if you say no to Arum's pick, or argue too much over the money, Arum pulls the fight, sits you at home, and let's your family starve until you're ready to accept Arum's fight

See Nicholas Walters pre Lomachenko for reference! (btw, Loma still beats an active Walters)

[AdonisCreed]

Kenny should just keep his mouth shut and keep Shawn active. Waiting on Thurman could be a long time let's say Keith takes a tune up fight and gets injured again then what. Besides nobody wants Shawn head butting them for twelve rounds.

[MisanthropicNY]

It was a competitive, entertaining fight, but Thurman clearly won. A rematch isn't needed. Thurman vs. Spence should happen next. Too many pointless rematches happening.

[MisanthropicNY]

Fighters under Haymon control their own careers; Haymon/management work out the contracts and all that, but Haymon's sole job is to present his fighters with the opportunities and leave it to them to decide.

Danny Garcia fought Keith Thurman, suffering his first defeat, in a 7-5 fight, and basically decided to take the year off; with his finances well situated, he was free to rest his body, rest his mind, and enjoy his young family for a bit. Now that he's ready to fight, he can get back to the path he likely would've been on without the time off.

Shawn Porter, after losing to Keith Thurman close, focused simply on putting himself back into position to fight Keith Thurman again; the Berto fight made him top WBC challenger, and the Granados fight made him WBC mandatory to Thurman. With that being the only fight that Porter wants, he's basically taken himself of the table until that happens (with Thurman having his return fight by April, he'll end up having to fight either Porter or Spence before October, no matter how you cut it; if the Spence fight gets agreed to, I have no doubt that Shawn Porter then takes a fight, now knowing that he's for sure the next fight for the winner).

Simply follow the pecking order, and understand that, barring mandatories, things work top-down; as things currently stand, the order of the top 5 welterweights seems to be Thurman, Garcia, Spence, Khan, and then Porter. Thurman makes his choice and so on (with Spence basically being the boogeyman of the division, his choices get limited; Khan doesn't seem like he wants to fight anyone even remotely good at this point).

Top Rank gives their fighters no such options; Bob picks the fights, the management of the fighter tries to get the best money for Bob's fight, and then they fight; if you say no to Arum's pick, or argue too much over the money, Arum pulls the fight, sits you at home, and let's your family starve until you're ready to accept Arum's fight

I see you're shilling for Haymon... but...

Why don't you repeat the above to: VANES MARTIROSYAN

[Removed Now]

Vargas vs Thurman Hmmmmm

[Removed Now]

I feel you! That's my fear too! How long will Porter be inactive, if the tune-up is in March/April? He shouldn't fight just anybody, but if he gets a shot @ Garcia, Khan, or Matthysse, he should do it! What I really want to see, if Porter would take the risk, is Jermell Charlo vs. Shawn Porter for the WBC 154lb. title! Porter used to fight 152/154! That would be a WAR!

Matthysse????? Porter will kill him.

[FLY TY]

I forgot Ponomarev, I think that's his name, vacated or passed on his manadatory position to fight Spence, so yes you are correct, there are two openings at the top, if I am not mistaken at 147 IBF.

Absolutely right. Please tell me any other fighter in Spence's position...

Not only do none of the "names" want to fight him, but his mandatories won't fight him either.

[.!WAR MIKEY!.]

Thurman has lost that Onetime image is now seen as RUNTIME

he hasnt been wanting to face any challengers for a while now.