loma's response to floyd

[Robbie Barrett]

maybe floyd could come out of retirement and fight lomachenko if hes so useless? He was happy to fight mcgregor not long ago, hed have the size advantage against lomachenko too. What a win that would be for floyd....

Mayweather would beat Lomachenko easily. Even at 41. Lomachenko is a pillow puncher at 130 WTF is he going to do to Mayweather at 147?

[Gigantes]

Are you trying to claim Davis has more boxing experience than Loma? OMFG

at the pro level, yes. 19 pro fights isn't more than 11 pro fights?

doesn't davis have a belt? inexperience don't fight for belts?

[Robbie Barrett]

at the pro level, yes. 19 pro fights isn't more than 11 pro fights?

doesn't davis have a belt? inexperience don't fight for belts?

Boxing experience at pro or amateur is still boxing experience. The reason Lomachenko is being moved so fast is because of how much experience he has. Lomachenko fans like to pick and choose when his amateur record should count or not a lot. Loma also has 6 fights in the WBS, which is basically 5 round pro fights that Lomachenko fans like to forget.

[GrandmasterWang]

Mayweather would beat Lomachenko easily. Even at 41. Lomachenko is a pillow puncher at 130 WTF is he going to do to Mayweather at 147?

Lomachenko would embarrass a 41 year old Mayweather. Mayweather looked terrible vs McGregor.

Lomachenko would just hit and not be hit and effectively embarass Mayweather with his skill and not power. He's just so much faster with much quicker reflexes. Floyd would probably quit on his stool like Rigo after getting clowned.

Floyd clearly is only a shadow of himself now. Thankfully that was still enough for him to beat up a noob McGregor but Lomachenko would be too much despite the size difference.

Mayweather is now even older and slower than when he fought Conor as well. It was sad to see but Mayweather is done as a top level boxer. Age catches up with everyone.

[chrisJS]

Boxing experience at pro or amateur is still boxing experience. The reason Lomachenko is being moved so fast is because of how much experience he has. Lomachenko fans like to pick and choose when his amateur record should count or not a lot. Loma also has 6 fights in the WBS, which is basically 5 round pro fights that Lomachenko fans like to forget.

You also refused to mention that it is an amateur tournament with other amateur (non-pro's) fighters using larger gloves just to fit your narrative. Some/the majority maintain eligibility and stay amateur and go on to compete in other amateur competitions since as the world championships and olympics.

Also, you irrational detractors also say amateur credentials and bouts don't matter when it fits your narrative. You can't have it both ways. As always your one-sided. Even in the cases I agree with you (like Joshua-Wilder for example).

[Robbie Barrett]

You also refused to mention that it is an amateur tournament with other amateur (non-pro's) fighters using larger gloves just to fit your narrative. Some/the majority maintain eligibility and stay amateur and go on to compete in other amateur competitions since as the world championships and olympics.

Also, you irrational detractors also say amateur credentials and bouts don't matter when it fits your narrative. You can't have it both ways. As always your one-sided. Even in the cases I agree with you (like Joshua-Wilder for example).

Those amateurs are better boxers than the cans most fighters fight to gain experience in the pros. Lomachenko is vastly more experienced than Davis. **** he's vastly more experienced than almost every damn active fighter. Count all the rounds he's boxed and compare.

[The Gambler1981]

I see a lot of people saying that they should wait to marinate the fight, which is understandable.
My question is: how good do you guys think Davis is?

I think he is better than some give him credit for, but I'm not sure if he is good enough to be a huge factor in the future.

They will marinate the Lomachenko vs. Garcia fight because that is the big fight for these guys.
Loma and Garcia would probably be the favorites to beat everyone from 140 and below. Even though Loma has yet to fight at 135 and 140.
One of them will not be the favorite once they have to fight each other.
Not sure Davis can get to that level.

If I were in Loma's team I would have him keep mentioning Floyd and Davis because that keeps his name more relevant with other people, but also focus more on fighters that actually want to get in the ring.

I say fight Kenichi Ogawa in March for the IBF belt (everybody else is busy for early next year).
Then fight Miguel Berchelt (hopefully Berchelt's team allows him to take the fight).
Then unify the last with the remaining champion.
First fight at Lightweight should be someone like Jorge Linares.

People want to see Loma move up already, but if he moves up next people will say, well he never cleaned up 130; so I say clean up 130 first. The Mikey and Linares fights will still be there after Loma unifies 130. They're not going anywhere. Linares tops out at 135. Mikey's best weights are 135 and 140. I have no doubt Mikey would move up 147 if given a good opponent, but it wouldn't be wise of him.

I would like to see Loma fight 4 times next year, but who knows if that a possibility. Hopefully it is.
Imagine a 4 fight year with Ogawa, Berchelt, WBA Champion, Linares.

I agree with what you are saying pretty much spot on, I just wouldn't quite call it marination.

Davis is young and has talent along with untapped potential because I think he could get more dedicated to boxing. That second part makes me question how good he will be in a couple year but if you are Floyd and you have a guy like Davis who could be good or better than he is now, is throwing him in with a true wolf the right move. If Davis never will be sure why not but with that being kind of unknown I don't think anyone would pull the trigger on that fight unless there was a ton of money in it which I can't see being the case.

Still Lomachenko is right to go after Davis because it would be a decent scalp and forcing Floyd to talk about him is among the best things he can have happen for him because people will feel one way or the other over it and over time people will feel more strongly about Lomachenko from these small seeds.

[chrisJS]

Those amateurs are better boxers than the cans most fighters fight to gain experience in the pros. Lomachenko is vastly more experienced than Davis. **** he's vastly more experienced than almost every damn active fighter. Count all the rounds he's boxed and compare.

Experience counts a TON though. An amazing amateur can't just be thrown in at the deep end as a pro he must be gradually built up. Not fighting 3-18 or 0-5 guys but getting a feel for the game with the pro sized gloves, the no head gear against guys that are experienced in the pro game etc; are necessary. The pace of the fights, the mentality and concept of the pro game against the amateur game. Sure an amateur can have more solid fundamentals but he's not trained or experienced at going 10 or 12 rounds or fighting pro style boxers.

There's a reason Ali who won Olympic Gold for example was knocked down and got a razor thin win over Doug Jones and then knocked down and hurt badly by Henry Coopr but made a mockery of Liston and other top pro's once he got acquainted to the pro game.

There's a reason why Lomachenko is probably the best (most proven) 11 fight fighter in history - or at least modern history. He had the foundations and he leaned/adapted fast. I think a more conventional way of handling him would have been the Kostya Tszyu route of a couple bums and some low tier contenders and a gradual climb but I do applaud the mentality he took into the game and am enjoying seeing him improve aspects of his game with nearly every fight. He's a talented fighter IMO. Sure, his boxing experience was already grand but pro experience is never gained overnight.

[Fetta]

Loma says Floyd won't let Davis fight him and Garcia says Arum won't let Loma fight him. No one is afraid of the other. Just building it up as usual. Keep arguing and thinking one is afraid of the other

[Gillie]

loma should not open his mouth..

floyd knows when to make a fight.

floyd is gonna keep running his mouth, telling loma to fight this guy and that guy and loma will try to prove floyd wrong by taking those fights and when loma is pretty much damage goods, that's when floyd will make the loma fight with one of his guy and then get the last laugh.

Loma just doesn't want to get chumped by Mayweather by not responding. Plus, it's free publicity for Loma to be having a go with Mayweather. Peace.