Does anyone truly believe Pacquiao beat Mayweather?

[club fighter]

I'm in tight with a good number of Filipinos and have yet to hear one of them say Manny got robbed or won the fight.

They do bytch like hell that he runs and won't stand toe-to-toe with the PacMan, "DIS MUDDER PUCKER WON'T STAND AND PIGHT WITH MANNY!!! Putong Inna!!"

[WesternChamp]

the fact that you said you went to a bar filled with asian people is a lie already LOL... that's like me saying i went to the library and it was filled with black people.

[BrometheusBob.]

Spoon, Check Hooks, and Golovkin believe manny won. Other than those morons, the rest know that mayweather won

I'm sure even they recognize internally that that is not true

A reality they're not trying to face

[BrometheusBob.]

Yeah, Floyd fans paint it as a 12-0 white wash of the prime Pacquaio when in reality it was a close, boring fight where both guys did nothing, one guy just looked better at doing nothing. Pacquaio also looked like the much smaller man and was washed up.

Marquez-Pacquaio IV was a better fight and better win even though Floyd fans think MayPac was better on both counts. They are wrong.

I lost interest after 5-6 rounds and missed bits but seemed close and even to me but I was paying more attention to drinking beer and eating tacos so I'll take the consensus views on the fight. I just wasn't into it.

Amazed so many people still care and obsess over a dumb fight between a boring fighter playing safety first and a smaller, washed up fighter in a fight with zero action or entertainment.

Let's be consistent here.

In another thread you point out how there were Rigo fans picking Rigo to win and then who made excuses after.

50% of the forum picked Pacman to win, many by KO, over Mayweather in 2015. (That includes me btw, my vote in the May-Pac master thread is still there) I think we should just accept that we were wrong and that Mayweather won, just as we would expect from Rigo fans.

Yes, it's true that neither Pac nor Mayweather were in their primes but both were top 3 p4p fighters going into the fight, the odds were razor thin by fight night, and many people picked Pacman to win. And after the fight Pacman was still able to beat P4P rated Bradley.

It wasn't 12-0 true, but nevertheless an almost complete consensus of analysts and ringside media show that Mayweather won.

You can't decide to give Mayweather no credit afterwards just because it didn't go your way.

[chrisJS]

Let's be consistent here.

In another thread you point out how there were Rigo fans picking Rigo to win and then who made excuses after.

50% of the forum picked Pacman to win, many by KO, over Mayweather in 2015. (Including me) We should just accept that we were wrong and that Mayweather won, just as we would expect from Rigo fans.

I got both fights right for what it's worth. I knew Pacquaio wasn't the same as he was prior to Marquez knocking him out and rooted for Floyd to win.

Rigo over Loma is a much worse pick and the back peddling and excuses were far greater than the Pac-May excuses in what was a much closer and more competitive fight.

[IronDanHamza]

A very small handful of people. Mostly delusional.

Everyone with a grain of sense knows Floyd clearly won the fight.

[alexguiness]

Floyd won, but it meant nothing in the greater scheme of things. The whole fight felt more like an exhibition than the 'Fight of the Century'.

[BrometheusBob.]

I got both fights right for what it's worth. I knew Pacquaio wasn't the same as he was prior to Marquez knocking him out and rooted for Floyd to win.

Rigo over Loma is a much worse pick and the back peddling and excuses were far greater than the Pac-May excuses in what was a much closer and more competitive fight.

I take it you did not do much reading of the forum after the May-Pac fight.

There were several posters who wrote dozens of posts per day for several months defending Pacquiao's performance from criticism - blaming his age, blaming the 15 to 20 clinches, blaming his rotator cuff, blaming Bayless etc etc. Even though many of those posters, in the same master thread on the topic, voted for Pac and posted that they fully expected Pacman to win.

The May-Pac master thread was so active afterwards that it remained stickied for at least a year afterwards IIRC.

So no, the Rigo-Loma situation doesn't come even close. Comparatively, you have a few salty haters which comes with the territory of being an elite fighter.

[chrisJS]

I take it you did not do much reading of the forum after the May-Pac fight.

There were several posters who wrote dozens of posts per day for several months defending Pacquiao's performance from criticism - blaming his age, blaming the 15 to 20 clinches, blaming his rotator cuff, blaming Bayless etc etc. Even though many of those posters, in the same master thread on the topic, voted for Pac and posted that they fully expected Pacman to win.

The May-Pac master thread was so active afterwards that it remained stickied for at least a year afterwards IIRC.

So no, the Rigo-Loma situation doesn't come even close. Comparatively, you have a few salty haters which comes with the territory of being an elite fighter.

I wasn't reading the board too much around then. However, Pacquaio is such a huge name naturally he'll have rabid fans that are just as ******ed as Mayweather fans.

Lomachenko-Rigo was a fight for boxing fans and two lesser known fighters (so less nutty fans) yet still the idiots felt inclined to get involved and make outlandish picks and ****** post-fight excuses.

For what it's worth I don't think either are great wins as like I said I didn't think Rigo was this god of boxing they claimed him to be and knew Loma would dominate and I knew Pacquaio was washed up but it was a fairly close fight or at least competitive fight.

[TheBigLug]

I had it 9-3 for Floyd.

Apart from a few moments, it really was pretty routine for Floyd.

It was dull but that's Manny's fault. Floyd just did what he usually did late on in his career. Not Floyd's fault that Manny couldn't change that.