Comments Thread For: The Argument For (And Against) Lomachenko Being #1 P4P

[Steven Mccowan]

Can't argue with that. I can't hate on him for exposing Rig. as a QUITTER and liar. He DOMINATED a P4Per. and made it look easy.I just don't want to see no more guys lower in weight class. He's a big dude at 130. 135 has way better fighters and fights.

130 ain't sht! Unless he want to unify all the belts (Which is only reason to stay).

Tank aint gonna fight him.
Alberto Machado was getting dropped in his last fight and down on all the cards.
Miguel Berchelt got KO'd in 1 round.

The division below him is STACKED but he's bigger than them.

Yeah id like to see big fights between 130-40. Loma,weighed 137 on fight day after a breakfast though. So he aint that big. His talent though he can do 140 and maybe even ww jump later in career. Who knows

[Steven Mccowan]

I like Loma, but we're giving him a lot on the "eye test," and if I'm just going off the eye-test, then Crawford and Mikey are more impressive. Loma "clowns" his opponents, Mikey (Zlaticanin) and Crawford (Indongo) destroy their opponents! Loma is extra-talented! I think he needs a "moment" like Mayweather vs. Gatti! Loma needs to fight Pacquiao at a CW, and create that "moment!"

if you ask me garcia getting alot of hype for zlatacanin and also against c level fighter in broner who never throws punches. I dig mikey and all but he is gaining reputation after a broner win. And we all know about broner lol

[chrisJS]

if you ask me garcia getting alot of hype for zlatacanin and also against c level fighter in broner who never throws punches. I dig mikey and all but he is gaining reputation after a broner win. And we all know about broner lol

Yup and before that he went away for 3 years because he didn't wanna fight Gamboa.

Mikey handpicks smaller come forward aggressive dudes and stays away from slick fighters and fighters with movement.

[MisanthropicNY]

Crawford's resume is atrocious. Postol and Gamboa and that makes you number 1? What are dumb-dumbs on here thinking? Seriously?

GGG just got robbed againts Canelo and beat Jacobs - those are top-tier fighters.

Loma is clearly number 1 - skills-wise and resume...

Thurman should be up there but for some reason he's hated on...

Rungvisai should be up there also and if he beats Estrada, he should be number 2 right behind Loma.

[SpeedForce]

Look, when I hear Loma talk he seems like a really sensible, logical, well rounded guy. But how do you move up the lb for lb list by beating someone 2 weight classes smaller and 10 years older? He has made me a fan of his after the past few fights with his talking more than his boxing. His boxing is rudimentary, jump in quick short flurries and step to the side. Some decent defense with some head movement. He's really nothing special, but really good at working with what he has. That's why I like him, but I dont see him lb for lb at all. Not when there's names like Spence Jr, Thurman and Crawford out there. Not to mention Mikey Garcia will completely take Loma to school. All guys who are much more skilled and fight on a much higher level than "No mas"chenko. That Euro boxing can only take you so far. He's missing alot of elements in his game that these Americans have.

Crawford is the guy Bob Arum will hide from every fighter in his stable that's up and coming because he knows how good he is. For example he will try to get Jeff Horn as many fights as he can before he fights Crawford because he knows once they fight Jeff Horns career will be on the down.

[hitking]

if you ask me garcia getting alot of hype for zlatacanin and also against c level fighter in broner who never throws punches. I dig mikey and all but he is gaining reputation after a broner win. And we all know about broner lol

For one, Broner isn’t a C level fighter. Secondly, is Lomachencko beating a 37yr old fighter moving up two divisions more impressive than Mikey moving up and beating a guy in his physical prime?

[MrShakeAndBake]

No he didn't cheat. He paid for the weight and Loma could of turned it down. And he didn't. I dont want to ever hear this BS again after dragging 2 guys up in a row...

ALMOST same size




NOT even FKN CLOSE

hahah someone give this fool some glasses, you aint that young act your age. “almost the same size” hahahahaah

[MrShakeAndBake]

Loma P4P #1!!!!
when Crawford will fight for champion belt on his second pro fight, when Crawford will make 4 guys quit in a row, when crawford will school another 2 gold olympic medalist. Then we can talk about him being above Loma. no way no how.. PERIOD.

[hitking]

Look, when I hear Loma talk he seems like a really sensible, logical, well rounded guy. But how do you move up the lb for lb list by beating someone 2 weight classes smaller and 10 years older? He has made me a fan of his after the past few fights with his talking more than his boxing. His boxing is rudimentary, jump in quick short flurries and step to the side. Some decent defense with some head movement. He's really nothing special, but really good at working with what he has. That's why I like him, but I dont see him lb for lb at all. Not when there's names like Spence Jr, Thurman and Crawford out there. Not to mention Mikey Garcia will completely take Loma to school. All guys who are much more skilled and fight on a much higher level than "No mas"chenko. That Euro boxing can only take you so far. He's missing alot of elements in his game that these Americans have.

Crawford is the guy Bob Arum will hide from every fighter in his stable that's up and coming because he knows how good he is. For example he will try to get Jeff Horn as many fights as he can before he fights Crawford because he knows once they fight Jeff Horns career will be on the down.

Glad you touched in Lomachencko’s style. What gets lost in all of this “Hi-Tech” hype is that he’s 30yrs old, and fights in a very high energy style. He has some skills. But he’s not Floyd Mayweather/Bernard Hopkins/Rigondeaux level skilled where he’s gonna be able to rely on technique and skills to continue fighting at a high level well past his physical prime. And once a guy like that loses a little bit of his quickness and/or reflexes, they usually fall off pretty quickly. I could be wrong. Because who expected Manny Pacquiao, with his style, to fight at the level he fought at well into his 30s. But Manny has ridiculous speed and power. Lomachencko has neither.

[hitking]

Loma P4P #1!!!!
when Crawford will fight for champion belt on his second pro fight, when Crawford will make 4 guys quit in a row, when crawford will school another 2 gold olympic medalist. Then we can talk about him being above Loma. no way no how.. PERIOD.

I have an idea. How about Lomachencko challenge Crawford at 140? Then Crawford will have his chance to school a two time gold medalist.