Comments Thread For: Luis Ortiz: Joshua is a Well Cared For Girl - Worse Than Wilder!

[Fabes88]

Wrong. You don't spend a year and a half out of the ring as a 41 year old man and come back better. Nope, no way, I have a hard time thinking even casuals could be convinced of that.

Just admit the truth - Tyson Fury neutralised him and he was timid. Hard to hit a target that moves and sends a fist to your face when you overextend. 85 inch reach baby

Did Bryant Jennings neutralise him too? Explain how he looked miles better against aj than he did Jennings, let me guess Jennings is just better than aj right?

Wlad had a lot of issues leading up to the fury fight apparently with his wife's post natal depression. I really wanted to see a rematch because something was just not there that night but fury did everything in his power to duck it.

['b']

Did Bryant Jennings neutralise him too? Explain how he looked miles better against aj than he did Jennings, let me guess Jennings is just better than aj right?

Wlad had a lot of issues leading up to the fury fight apparently with his wife's post natal depression. I really wanted to see a rematch because something was just not there that night but fury did everything in his power to duck it.

Yep, and I bet Wlad looks invincible when he goes to the local bar and knocks out ten men.

You don't know **** about boxing. How can you say he looked better, or that he was objectively better when he hadn't fought for a year and a half and is 41 years old?

What a joke. Eddie Alvarez looked pretty decent against Gaethje but got clowned by a superior striker. Easy to look good when your opponent is there to be hit and there is less risk of being pounded in the face.

We aren't talking about a young man gaining experience and getting stronger, we are talking about a man well past his prime who is diminishing year after year.

[taste]

Someone's going to outwork/outpoint this old man before he ever gets his shot...

[Jim Tom]

Ortiz can't beAT joshua, he is just banking on a lucky shot. I do agree he has to make noise so he can get paid but he will not see the 12th round.

[Fabes88]

Yep, and I bet Wlad looks invincible when he goes to the local bar and knocks out ten men.

You don't know **** about boxing. How can you say he looked better, or that he was objectively better when he hadn't fought for a year and a half and is 41 years old?

What a joke. Eddie Alvarez looked pretty decent against Gaethje but got clowned by a superior striker. Easy to look good when your opponent is there to be hit and there is less risk of being pounded in the face.

We aren't talking about a young man gaining experience and getting stronger, we are talking about a man well past his prime who is diminishing year after year.

No. We are talking about a reigning champ of ten years who probably grew complacent and that loss snapped him out of it. You obviously don't have the mentality of a champion so I'm sure you don't get it. I'm sure there was a desire to show people that he was far from done and had a lot left in the tank after that abysmal fury fight, which he showed. The pain of that defeat alone would've inspired him to be better and it showed. You don't know anything about boxing if you think klitchko looked fitter and sharper in the fury and Jennings fight than he did against aj.

['b']

No. We are talking about a reigning champ of ten years who probably grew complacent and that loss snapped him out of it. You obviously don't have the mentality of a champion so I'm sure you don't get it. I'm sure there was a desire to show people that he was far from done and had a lot left in the tank after that abysmal fury fight, which he showed. The pain of that defeat alone would've inspired him to be better and it showed. You don't know anything about boxing if you think klitchko looked fitter and sharper in the fury and Jennings fight than he did against aj.

You actually believe that fight hyping nonsense? Yeah yeah Jose Aldo wanted to do the same vs Holloway - aging ex champions are aging ex champions, time stops for no-one; fact.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

He looked better because Joshua just isn't that good.

A few years earlier and the big stiff Joshua would have been a tailor made opponent for Wlad.

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[HarvardBlue]

Wrong. You don't spend a year and a half out of the ring as a 41 year old man and come back better.

Except that he did. He was a lot better than he was against Fury. The best I've seen Klitschko fight even against fighters he clearly outmatched.

[N/A]

Are you going to provide proof of this or just accuse someone?

We don't have to prove a negative. The onus is on you to prove your original statement. The truth is that you have no idea what Wilder really makes per fight, because you only know what is filed with the commission, which is often very different from the fighter's true purse, especially when it's the main event a-side.

[N/A]

... and the truth is????...

the truth is that what is filed with the commission and what a main event a-side actually gets paid are often very very different.