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As long as Thurman and Spence have access to a Crawford fight then it makes sense to me. I know Spence is willing to take the challenge. Thurman probably would go into "Run Time" mode and scamper away from Terence with his tail between his legs instead of manning up and fighting him.
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you are so wrong on all levels. Crawford made over $2million for Indongo and will get $3million or close to it for Horn. The only reason he isn't fighting sooner is because he is the mandatory for Horn. So he fights April, August and November and has $3mil in the bank after April. He will easily make $8 million or put it this way, he will make more than Thurman, Vargas and Jessie Vargas combined make next year. He would be ****** to leave and that is why he signed an extension. You would too for that type of activity and money. You say he doesn't have opponents yet they got him Postol and Indongo which were huge for his career.
Danny Garcia will fight someone like Brandon Rios for a little over a million bucks and call it a year. Then maybe in 2019 He will step up to fight a Shawn Porter or someone like that and get the 1.5 you are talking about. Fighters that go to PBC don't care about legacy and a lot don't really want to be active. Just get a good purse for a fight and maybe two fights if they are lucky.
Thats why guys like Danny Jacobs, Frampton and Beterbiev have already left Haymon (check your sources Jacobs has zero to do with Haymon in 2018), and guys like DeGale and Selby will be signing with promoters very soon (just wait till Warren announces it) and Haymon was forced to do a massive overpay to prevent a very unhappy Spence from doing the same thing. Spence is happy now but lets revisit this conversation in May if he doesn't have his second fight of the year lined up yet.
And stop making stuff up, Porter WAS CRYING for a fight until he finally got the Granados fight. Really until he had the Dulorme fight that he pulled out of. He has been crying for a fight since the Thurman fight. Get your facts straight. Only after the Granados fight did his stance change that he only wants Thurman rematch.
Guys like Crawford and Lomachenko have the best position in boxing outside of Canelo and Triple G. They are the flag bearers for TR. Everything at TR and ESPN revolves around them. If Loma wants to fight April July Sept and Dec they will make it happen. Crawford will "only" get 3 fights in because he is waiting for Horn.
If TR had a stable the size of PBC there guys would all be inactive too but they are benefiting by having the same amount of dates or more on ESPN than PBC has on Showtime. Those are all factsComment
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April, August, and November against who?
Pacquiao has enough folks earnestly looking out for him (namely Freddie Roach at this point), that he's not going to walk into a setup that gets him De La Hoya'd unless he absolutely needs the $20m.
Bradley retired, Marquez retired, and Jesse Vargas jumped ship. Who is there for him to fight on ESPN for Top Rank? Lucas Matthysse maybe, but then what for November? lol.
Jesse Vargas fights next week, Danny Garcia fights likely late January, and they likely end up fighting each other come the summer (winner of that likely cues up just behind Shawn Porter for the Thurman-Spence winner).
Degale and Selby have both made it clear that they're still with Haymon and have no interest working beyond fight-by-fight with Warren, Jacobs has made it utterly clear that Haymon is still leading the table, and Beterbiev hasn't said anything beyond his beef with GYM. You played yourself.
Will laugh my ass off if Horn picks up an injury and Crawford ends up sitting out until August 2018.Comment
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Did you watch Beterbiev's last fight? Who was in his corner when entered the ring? How many Watsons did you see? Oh zero just like me and everyone else saw. LMAO. You played yourself again.
Frampton and Jacobs couldn't wait to get the hell away from PBC and the inactivity. Lets see with Selby and DeGale. You heard it here first.
You will laugh your ass off? Are you a moron? If Horn gets an injury why would Crawford sit out till August? He would fight for the interim WBO strap in April and then fight Horn in August. Man you aren't too bright.
Danny Garcia fighting in late January. I bet you $1000 he doesn't lmao. That is the date all the Haymon fighters say they are fighting. Spence has the 20th so what Mikey Garcia, Adonis Stevenson, Danny Garcia and Keith Thurman have all been linked to the 27th. So which one is it.
We don't even know if SHO will have a card in Feb. If they do it likely will only be one since they are doing two in Jan. Garcia will probably fight in March then disappear for a while same as Stevenson, Gary Russell, Thurman, Porter, Charlo Bros etc all do. One fight a year. Out of sight and out of mine. That is why SHO ratings can't even catch the weak HBO ratings.
As for Crawford what do you mean what opponents? He already has been fighting several opponents not promoted by Top Rank. Who advises Molina and Diaz? Who promotes Indongo, Lundy, Dierry Jean, Thomas Dulorme etc etc? Sure isn't Top Rank. You keep clowning yourselfComment
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Who is there for Crawford to fight? You've ranted about the dates and the activity money, yet you still can't name three fights that are actually viable for Crawford right now, lol.
If Horn gets hurt, Crawford is going to hope that Arum sweetens the pot enough to get Matthysse on ESPN or he'll be sitting around with nothing to do but wait.Comment
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All of those guys are with PBC, fighting on Showtime/CBS and FOX/FS1, and you already know that.
Danny Garcia, Keith Thurman, Errol Spence Jr, and Shawn Porter all need fights. Heck, fights against Adrien Broner, Jesse Vargas, and even Andre Berto likely pay better than what Top Rank is offering to fight (Rigo and Lomachenko splitting $2m on the fight confirms about where the budget for these Top Rank cards are for ESPN, and you've continued to insist that Crawford is getting $2m+ per fight). lolComment
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we know crawford makes more than all of them. U said it yourself before. We know everyone I just mentioned is with pbc. U really aren’t the sharpest tool in the shed. Crawford has been fighting pbc fighters on hbo.
He will fight them on eSPN too. U notice I mentioned the PBc “B” list. The kind of guys Danny Garcia likes to fight. Felix Diz and John Molina are on that Luis collazo sammy vasquez level. U keep owing yourself.
Haymon doesn’t have enough dares for his a list. Let alone his b list and c list fighters. He will ship his guys to slaughter on espn he same way he did John Molina, felix fox, arroyo, wade etc. Just send them to slaughter on a rival network because he has nothing for themComment
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