Comments Thread For: Bob Arum Very Open To Do Talent "Trades" With Showtime

[Scipio2009]

I have been saying that Arum will need to stop his in-house nonsense if he is going to keep Bud. Bud is a dog and he won't be satisfied only fighting Top Rank fighters. It is in everyone's best interest if they set aside their political problems and get the best in the ring against each other...

How is Terrence Crawford not leaving ESPN in the interest of Showtime/CBS? lol

Espinoza can keep on featuring the rest of the welterweight fighters on his side, and wait until Crawford's contract comes free.

[IMDAZED]

Arum is such a good a bull****ter

[killakali]

How is Terrence Crawford not leaving ESPN in the interest of Showtime/CBS? lol

Espinoza can keep on featuring the rest of the welterweight fighters on his side, and wait until Crawford's contract comes free.

And what come to Showtime and fight once a year like Danny Garcia, Keith Thurman, Errol Spence? lol.

Or stay at ESPN and fight 3-4 times a year and make 3-4x as much money as Garcia and Thurman and twice as much as Spence who Haymon had to overpay to keep him from signing with GBP

[Corelone]

He'll still be selling Pac until Manny is a six star general.

[Scipio2009]

And what come to Showtime and fight once a year like Danny Garcia, Keith Thurman, Errol Spence? lol.

Or stay at ESPN and fight 3-4 times a year and make 3-4x as much money as Garcia and Thurman and twice as much as Spence who Haymon had to overpay to keep him from signing with GBP

Quality over quantity; outside of if there's an injury being dealt with, stepping into camp for meaningful fights is a far better proposition than stepping into camp for what you and everyone you know knows are bull**** fights.

If Terrence Crawford is content to simply fight tickover fights every 3-4 months, for whatever guaranteed money that he can get in his deal, that's fine. Tim Bradley went from being arguably the best fighter at 140, to jumping over to Arum and not giving a **** about who he was fighting beyond Pacquiao, and he seems to have walked away from the sport happy.

On the other side of the street, Keith Thurman is coming back, likely having either Thurman-Spence or Thurman-Porter 2 in the second half of the year, Danny Garcia is expected to come back early 2018 against Brandon Rios, Devon Alexander and Jesse Vargas are getting back online as possible challengers, Yordenis Ugas is heading into that mix, Omar Figueroa Jr is basically floating 140/147, you've got a few young prospects coming along at 147, and then you still have the trial horses like Andre Berto, Luis Collazo, Sammy Vasquez, Josesito Lopez and others to mix in, before you even get to the 140lb fighters who may move up.

Really, it's on Crawford. If the Pacquiao-Crawford fight doesn't happen, and Jeff Horn doesn't want to leave Australia, who is Crawford even going to have to fight three times a year with? Tyrone Nurse, Bradley Skeete, Ponamarev, Robinson, and then bottom of the bottom fishing from that.

So much for legacy, right?

[BoxingIsGreat]

He'll still be selling Pac until Manny is a six star general.

[Bronx2245]

Sounds like an excellent idea! Good one Bob...finally!

[jjsmyth87]

One of the bigest myths out there is top rank only doing in house fights. Top Rank does less in house fights than golden boy or pbc. Only 2 of terence crawfords last 10 fights have been against a top rank opponent, that should dispel that myth right away but people only believe what they want to fit their narrative

[jjsmyth87]

Quality over quantity; outside of if there's an injury being dealt with, stepping into camp for meaningful fights is a far better proposition than stepping into camp for what you and everyone you know knows are bull**** fights.

If Terrence Crawford is content to simply fight tickover fights every 3-4 months, for whatever guaranteed money that he can get in his deal, that's fine. Tim Bradley went from being arguably the best fighter at 140, to jumping over to Arum and not giving a **** about who he was fighting beyond Pacquiao, and he seems to have walked away from the sport happy.

On the other side of the street, Keith Thurman is coming back, likely having either Thurman-Spence or Thurman-Porter 2 in the second half of the year, Danny Garcia is expected to come back early 2018 against Brandon Rios, Devon Alexander and Jesse Vargas are getting back online as possible challengers, Yordenis Ugas is heading into that mix, Omar Figueroa Jr is basically floating 140/147, you've got a few young prospects coming along at 147, and then you still have the trial horses like Andre Berto, Luis Collazo, Sammy Vasquez, Josesito Lopez and others to mix in, before you even get to the 140lb fighters who may move up.

Really, it's on Crawford. If the Pacquiao-Crawford fight doesn't happen, and Jeff Horn doesn't want to leave Australia, who is Crawford even going to have to fight three times a year with? Tyrone Nurse, Bradley Skeete, Ponamarev, Robinson, and then bottom of the bottom fishing from that.

So much for legacy, right?

Theres Lucas mathysse, amir khan, kell brook and a few others that dont fight for pbc, but in any case crawford fought felix diaz and john molina in a row who are both pbc fighters so they shouldnt have a problem making more fights as long as pbc fighters dont go running scared. In the meantime Top Rank should be trying to sign more top welterweights. And lets not forget that Crawford is the WBO mandatory at 147 so hes getting a shot at Horn whether its in Australia or wherever. He shouldnt have a problem at all finding opponents if he has the belt

[IMDAZED]

One of the bigest myths out there is top rank only doing in house fights. Top Rank does less in house fights than golden boy or pbc. Only 2 of terence crawfords last 10 fights have been against a top rank opponent, that should dispel that myth right away but people only believe what they want to fit their narrative

I think you're misunderstanding what is meant. When was the last time Terence Crawford fought OFF a Top Rank card?

His opponents have been willing to fight on Top Rank cards even when they have a promoter themselves (Lou DiBella -- Felix Diaz). Arum isn't willing to do the same. Hell, they had to twist his arm to make Mayweather-Pacquiao and he *****ed about it the whole way through while everyone else was all smiles thinking about the money they were making.