The Case For AJ/Wilder Being 50/50

[daggum]

If all it would take to make a Vegas mega fight - bigger than GGG/Canelo - is two unbeaten, English speaking HW champs with high KO ratios .. then why didn't Haymon do it with Wilder and Martin, who are both American and both signed to him?

And why is Wilder going crazy calling out AJ, but not interested at all in unbeaten WBO champ Parker?

What is it about AJ that makes him different from Martin and Parker?

You don't think AJ's huge UK fan base has any relevance in this business ... seriously?

yes his huge uk fan base. uk being the key word. also if the reason the wilder-joshua is going to be huge is because of joshuas fan base why is wilder getting 50-50? makes no sense.

[Holler]

Martin actually got 75% of the purse, Joshua got 2mil for that fight. Imagine where we'd be if Wilder offered Martin a decent purse, and took a hit on his own. Fought Klitschko in Vegas 50/50, and won. Was unified WBC, IBF, WBA Champion. Joshua wouldnt have his Wembley fight, no massive popularity boost. Wilder calling all the shots

But he didnt, didnt have the foresight. So here we are

This is the truth of it. I think you said as much in the first page but some aren't listening, or aren't capable of understanding, not sure which.

One of these boxers took some calculated risks with his career and is now reaping the benefits. The other played safe. They may still share the same sport, but they're now in different worlds commercially. Wilder didn't take the risks but he still wants to be rewarded for them. It doesn't work like that.

His problem is that he needs AJ far more than AJ needs him. If he wants a shot at what AJ has he'll have to acknowledge that in the real world, he's not in the same league. That's why it won't be 50/50.

[koolkc107]

If all it would take to make a Vegas mega fight - bigger than GGG/Canelo - is two unbeaten, English speaking HW champs with high KO ratios .. then why didn't Haymon do it with Wilder and Martin, who are both American and both signed to him?

And why is Wilder going crazy calling out AJ, but not interested at all in unbeaten WBO champ Parker?

What is it about AJ that makes him different from Martin and Parker?

You don't think AJ's huge UK fan base has any relevance in this business ... seriously?

Because Martin is about as charismatic as a package of new socks.

Ditto Parker.

Most heavy's are boring or non-english speaking, and english is still the language you need to speak (at least a little) to sell over a million PPVs at $80-$100 a pop.

It isn't that is just two undefeated heavyweight KO artists.

It's two SALABLE undefeated heavyweight KO artists.

And yes, AJ's huge fanbase in his own country is indeed a factor in being able to sell the fight.

But, it doesn't automatically entitle AJ to a lion's share anymore than Hatton's or Pac's or Canelo's or Cotto's huge fanbases in their countries entitled them to lion shares when they weren't the A-side vs Floyd.

And, in Vegas, AJ isn't the A-side.

Neither guy is.

Wilder is calling AJ out because it is more salable than any other fight, including Parker.

Even with both guys not a household word (yet) in the US, it is a fight than can be promoted to make both men much richer and much more well known.

Unlike almost any other of the heavy's, both men do extremely well in front of a camera. They are the only two with good records that have the potential to attract casual and maybe transcend the sport. They can be worldwide celebrities.

And there is simply more money to be made in Vegas than anywhere else.