The Case For AJ/Wilder Being 50/50

[koolkc107]

The thing AJ fans love to point out- with decent enough reason- is what AJ has made in some of his last few fights.

AJ made 8M pounds vs Martin

AJ made 15M pounds vs Klitschko

AJ made 10M pounds vs Takam

(Against guys like Whyte, Molina, and Brazeale his purse were smaller, ranging from 1.5M to 3M pounds.)

The 3 big fights cited above are miles above and beyond anything Wilder has made in any of his fights, they say, so Deontay should not ask for a 50/50 split.

And that might actually make sense until you actually look at what his opponents got in those fights.

Martin made 6M pounds.

Wlad made 15M pounds.

Takam made 750,000 pounds.

Takam was a challenger taking the fight on 12 days notice. So he got a 90/10 split. The split for the fight with Pulev was going to be 80/20, again quite reasonable for an A-side champion vs a not too well known challenger.

But Martin, as an unknown champion asked to defend his title, got better than a 40% split (almost 43%).

Klitschko, a title-less aging former champ, got a 50/50 split.

Given this information, and given that AJ vs Wilder is the biggest fight that can be made in boxing, it is quite understandable why Wilder is asking for 50/50.

And given what AJ and Hearns have paid in the past, Wilder deserves it.

Martin, an unknown got near 45%.
Wlad with no title and coming off a loss, got 50%.

Wilder, better known than Martin and actually holding a belt unlike Wlad, should at a minimum get what Martin got no matter where the fight is. And truth is, he deserves the same deal as Wlad. He is a longer reigning champion than AJ is, and unlike even the Klitschko fight, this fight if marketed the right way can do extremely well on American PPV.

This is why folks who claim Wilder is pricing himself out of a fight actually have it backwards.

Offering another champion 20-35% is a clear sign that it is Hearn who doesn't want the fight.

And you don't have to have an opinion about what is fair or who is a bigger star.

All you have to do is look at the track record of what was offered and received in other big fights and see if what is offered here IN THE BIGGEST FIGHT OF ALL OF THEM lines up comparably.

And the answer is, it doesn't.

[RussB23]

AJ is the bigger star. Has the better resume, and has put more asses in seats. Thats why 50/50 is ridiculous for wilder. He is clearly the B side. Only a wilder fanboy would debate that. He on average makes around 900k per fight and cant even sell out his hometown.

Aj would probably sell out vegas in his first US fight. This is just true hes a bigger star and thats why Wilder needs to play ball.

[paulf]

The disparity between their drawing powers is just too great, despite the fact that Wilder would bring in more UK dollars as well. 60-40 AJ is what gets the fight made, especially if AJ grabs Parker's belt too.

[Robbie Barrett]

The thing AJ fans love to point out- with decent enough reason- is what AJ has made in some of his last few fights.

AJ made 8M pounds vs Martin

AJ made 15M pounds vs Klitschko

AJ made 10M pounds vs Takam

(Against guys like Whyte, Molina, and Brazeale his purse were smaller, ranging from 1.5M to 3M pounds.)

The 3 big fights cited above are miles above and beyond anything Wilder has made in any of his fights, they say, so Deontay should not ask for a 50/50 split.

And that might actually make sense until you actually look at what his opponents got in those fights.

Martin made 6M pounds.

Wlad made 15M pounds.

Takam made 750,000 pounds.

Takam was a challenger taking the fight on 12 days notice. So he got a 90/10 split. The split for the fight with Pulev was going to be 80/20, again quite reasonable for an A-side champion vs a not too well known challenger.

But Martin, as an unknown champion asked to defend his title, got better than a 40% split (almost 43%).

Klitschko, a title-less aging former champ, got a 50/50 split.

Given this information, and given that AJ vs Wilder is the biggest fight that can be made in boxing, it is quite understandable why Wilder is asking for 50/50.

And given what AJ and Hearns have paid in the past, Wilder deserves it.

Martin, an unknown got near 45%.
Wlad with no title and coming off a loss, got 50%.

Wilder, better known than Martin and actually holding a belt unlike Wlad, should at a minimum get what Martin got no matter where the fight is. And truth is, he deserves the same deal as Wlad. He is a longer reigning champion than AJ is, and unlike even the Klitschko fight, this fight if marketed the right way can do extremely well on American PPV.

This is why folks who claim Wilder is pricing himself out of a fight actually have it backwards.

Offering another champion 20-35% is a clear sign that it is Hearn who doesn't want the fight.

And you don't have to have an opinion about what is fair or who is a bigger star.

All you have to do is look at the track record of what was offered and received in other big fights and see if what is offered here IN THE BIGGEST FIGHT OF ALL OF THEM lines up comparably.

And the answer is, it doesn't.

So because Joshua made less against Martin to build his brand he should take less against Wilder?

No. Wilder should do what Joshua did and build his own damn brand.


Joshua made concessions to get where he his. You ******s want Wilder just to be handed it.

[koolkc107]

AJ's popularity is only in Britain.

And that is irrelevant in this fight, especially if it winds up in Vegas.

"The Great British Bake-Off" is the most popular show in Britain.

Hardly anyone outside of Britain knows this and you certainly wouldn't try selling it anywhere else based solely off of how it has done in England.

That's how silly AJ fans sound when they cite his success in Britain as a reason he is an A-side everywhere.

[Robbie Barrett]

AJ's popularity is only in Britain.

And that is irrelevant in this fight, especially if it winds up in Vegas.

"The Great British Bake-Off" is the most popular show in Britain.

Hardly anyone outside of Britain knows this and you certainly wouldn't try selling it anywhere else based solely off of how it has done in England.

That's how silly AJ fans sound when they cite his success in Britain as a reason he is an A-side everywhere.

Joshua is bigger worldwide and isn't far off Wilder in the states either.

[lfc19titles]

Yup

Here are the idiotic wilder fans claiming 50-50 is fair when wilder made 1.5m in his last fight lmao

Good god wilder was offered 10m, please don’t compare Wilder to wlad who himself was made 12m from German television fighting anyone

Wilder needs to stop ducking and accept the 10m, his highest pay day and if he wins, then he becomes the Ppv star not before

[Randall Cunning]

Joshua paid out the Martin and Klitschko purses to put himself into a position to dictate terms, now hes there hes in the power position. No previous purses matter.

[koolkc107]

Joshua is bigger worldwide and isn't far off Wilder in the states either.

Really?

What exactly are you basing that on?

What evidence do you have for AJ's popularity outside of Britain or Nigeria?

How many PPVs has AJ sold outside of Britain?

[Robbie Barrett]

AJ's popularity is only in Britain.

And that is irrelevant in this fight, especially if it winds up in Vegas.

"The Great British Bake-Off" is the most popular show in Britain.

Hardly anyone outside of Britain knows this and you certainly wouldn't try selling it anywhere else based solely off of how it has done in England.

That's how silly AJ fans sound when they cite his success in Britain as a reason he is an A-side everywhere.

There's actually more interest in Joshua in the US than Wilder.