Manny vs Crawford

[WesternChamp]

AGAIN Pacquaio see's the punch better and is positioned better. He even goes for a counter of his own. The second one Marquez has a full leg off the floor.

Pacquaio is also not leaning back with his body straight up nor is he completely coming in head on bringing leverage into the punch.

if you look closely, pac actually had his eyes closed!! lmao!!!!!!!

[chrisJS]

tell that to the floyd fans and marquez fans on here.

remember what pac fans said about a lucky punch???

no such thing as lucky punch when marquez landed that same right in all 4 fights? remember?? LOL!!!

Holy **** your dumb. No it's not a lucky punch because he is able to land punches previously but he never had an opening as great as the one's in fight IV due to the style of match and Pacquaio being too aggressive, over confident, not defensively responsible and dumb.

Technique can be the same but there's factors coming in and that's why anybody that has either boxed or knows anything about boxing knows its a sport of inches.

Marquez gambled, he rolled the dice, fought Pacquaio's fight and got Pacquaio to over commit to a punch and come in head on jumping into it with the whole force of his body. I think that's great timing, technique you think it was just a tap. Again, I understand the sport on a whole different level apparently.

[chrisJS]

if you look closely, pac actually had his eyes closed!! lmao!!!!!!!

Yes, but he already saw the punch coming and anticipated it. ****, being so hard headed i'm surprised you don't have more experience getting punched to know.

The 4th fight even Pacquaio HIMSELF admitted he didn't see the punch coming. Holy ****.

So, over committing, full force of two bodies, foot off the floor, walking into shot is going to spell disaster.

[WesternChamp]

Holy **** your dumb. No it's not a lucky punch because he is able to land punches previously but he never had an opening as great as the one's in fight IV due to the style of match and Pacquaio being too aggressive, over confident, not defensively responsible and dumb.

Technique can be the same but there's factors coming in and that's why anybody that has either boxed or knows anything about boxing knows its a sport of inches.

Marquez gambled, he rolled the dice, fought Pacquaio's fight and got Pacquaio to over commit to a punch and come in head on jumping into it with the whole force of his body. I think that's great timing, technique you think it was just a tap. Again, I understand the sport on a whole different level apparently.

i just posted 3 video showing marquez landed clean flush shot on pac. and you came back and made excuses about how pac saw those punches coming LOL!!

the punches that didnt drop manny you said he saw it coming even though i posted video showing he didnt.

[WesternChamp]

look at 0:03

[WesternChamp]

Yes, but he already saw the punch coming and anticipated it. ****, being so hard headed i'm surprised you don't have more experience getting punched to know.

The 4th fight even Pacquaio HIMSELF admitted he didn't see the punch coming. Holy ****.

So, over committing, full force of two bodies, foot off the floor, walking into shot is going to spell disaster.

4th fight, 1st knockdown, he also saw the punch coming and anticipated, thats why he pulled back!!!!

[chrisJS]

4th fight, 1st knockdown, he also saw the punch coming and anticipated, thats why he pulled back!!!!

Holy **** for the 300th time he was completely squared up and Marquez had both feet fully planted.

Like I said, you don't quite understand Boxing and the technical aspect.

[chrisJS]

look at 0:03

How is the leverage even comparable? Pacquaio is not squared up there. Also, Marquez had a HUGE windup and thus full power for the knockdown in fight IV. Look at the distance and arc of the punch. That punch is a scoring shot that happened to actually stun Pacquaio. The fight IV for reasons stated 300 times in this thread had more bad intentions since Marquez was planting his shots more because he knew it wasn't a points fight.

Also, not all two punches land the same. If they did boxers would either never knock each other down or always knock each other down.

[chrisJS]

I'm curious how old are you and how long have you been watching Boxing? Also, have you ever boxed? I'm not disrespecting you here. If the answer is 16, 3 years and no. I will not treat you any differently.

Why did Marquez not KO Alvarado, Pacquaio in fight III, Bradley or Senchenko DESPITE Having Memo? Bare in mind Marquez has 1 KO in 5 fights with Memo. Why? BECAUSE HE DIDN'T HAVE ANY OPPORTUNITIES AS OPEN AS HE GOT IN FIGHT IV FOR THE 300+ REASONS I'VE GIVEN BASED ON TECHNIQUE, TIMING, ACCURACY, PACQUAIO'S COMMITMENT AND MY UNDERSTANDING OF BOXING AND TECHNIQUE AND YOUR LACK THEREOF ETC; ETC; ETC;

Please note that he landed in all those fights. Landed hard shots and had successes but never had such openings. Marquez has a 62.5% KO ratio with Memo it's 20%. You'd think he was a 20% puncher when Memo was hired and then 100% the way you go on.

[WesternChamp]

Holy **** for the 300th time he was completely squared up and Marquez had both feet fully planted.

Like I said, you don't quite understand Boxing and the technical aspect.

excuses excuses. so the video i posted, marquez didnt have both feet fully planted? lmao!! bu bu but pac saw those punches coming! yeah right!