Hearn Confirms Deontay Wilder Doesn't Want Whyte Fight Even If AJ Is On The Contact

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Bryant Jennings who hasn't fought anyone in like 4 years? And was never that good in the first place, no better than dudes Wilder beat because he was never a true contender.

Yea saying something like that doesn't make you look like you have the faintest clue what you are talking about.

He just fought in August. TKO win over Martz. He fought Ortiz (December) and Klitschko (April) in 2015. Why not fight Wilder? I'm not saying he'll beat him, but he'll give him a good fight. My point is that Wilder wouldn't fight him because he's better than the cans that he's used to.

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Whyte then Joshua is such a natural and easy gateway into a payday

However Wilder doesn’t need to fight Whyte if he doesn’t want to.

But it will be massively embarrassing for him to decide to fight someone even worse.. for way less money

[The Gambler1981]

He just fought in August. TKO win over Martz. He fought Ortiz (December) and Klitschko (April) in 2015. Why not fight Wilder? I'm not saying he'll beat him, but he'll give him a good fight. My point is that Wilder wouldn't fight him because he's better than the cans that he's used to.

Yea he hasn't fought anyone in several years, I don't see how those two recent opponents count for anything if you think the guys Wilder beat are terrible, those guys are nothing. On top of that Jennings was never really all that in the first place and never beat anyone that impressive for you to say anything like what you are saying.

Jennings is the exact same as the guys Wilder beat, if Wilder beat him I wouldn't expect him to get any praise from someone like you, so don't bring him up.

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So why is Wilder turning down $4million + US TV income to fight him?

Exactly!

It’s about control. They see Whyte as a pawn in Hearns little game of chess. And they don’t want to be used by Hearn IMO. There’s definitely a lack of trust between the two sides. Hearn already has Joshua, who is the star, and that gives him leverage. Wilders camp is just trying to maintain what little control they have.

Screw that, I'd beat Whyte's ass & take that $4mill! And it could serve to build the AJ fight, with both having beaten the same guy. Especially if Wilder does it in more brutal fashion than AJ.

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Yea he hasn't fought anyone in several years, I don't see how those two recent opponents count for anything if you think the guys Wilder beat are terrible, those guys are nothing. On top of that Jennings was never really all that in the first place and never beat anyone that impressive for you to say anything like what you are saying.

Jennings is the exact same as the guys Wilder beat, if Wilder beat him I wouldn't expect him to get any praise from someone like you, so don't bring him up.

You're missing the whole point. So I'll spell it out for you...Wilder won't fight anyone with even a remote chance of beating him. Why? Because any fight that he struggles to win takes away his leverage, if he should actually negotiate to fight AJ. And he needs all the leverage he can get, because a fight with AJ would be his end.

[The Gambler1981]

You're missing the whole point. So I'll spell it out for you...Wilder won't fight anyone with even a remote chance of beating him. Why? Because any fight that he struggles to win takes away his leverage, if he should actually negotiate to fight AJ. And he needs all the leverage he can get, because a fight with AJ would be his end.

Wilder is fine as long as he wins fights, struggle or otherwise his position is set as long as he doesn't screw it up.

A guy like Jennings who fights from the outside and has no real pop or any defense is not going to challenge Wilder. The guys that could beat Wilder are the really good guys, not just any scrub like you are saying. If any scrub could really beat him he would have already lost or been damn close. he has yet to be close to losing so he is quite above the guys you mention.

So if that was the case why was he so gung ho to fight Ortiz who most view as a real threat, Ortiz was the one that blew that chance with his shenanigans not Wilder. The WBC was the one that pulled sanctioning making the fight not something Wilder could even really do after that.

That was totally optional he didn't have to do that, so right there your theory is kind of hit~

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On today's episode of Sky podcast Eddie Hearn confirmed Deontay Wilder is all talk. Not only has Wilder priced himself out of the AJ fight by wanting 50% and not willing to budge on that percentage.. but Wilder has been going around doing multiple interviews saying he'll fight Whyte if AJ is on the contact to fight next and he's been claiming that Hearn is protecting AJ by keeping him off the contract and away from Wilder.

Well Eddie Hearn confirmed today that he called Wilder's bluff and offered Wilder a career highest 4mil to fight Whyte and said he is also willing to put AJ on the contract so the winner fights AJ in a unification later in 2018!

But Wilder and his team want nothing to do Whyte and have refused the offer and they will most likely fight Breazeale next!

Hearn confirmed they plan to fight Parker next and go into negotiations with Wilder holding 4 belts which will force Wilder to be more reasonable with regards to his percentage.

So you're taking the word of the promoter of the guy Wilder wants to fight and hasn't been able to. Whats next, you're going to take Joshua's word over his. And its just words. Not contracts. Not video or voice recordings. Just the word of one man who makes money promoting one guy against the word of a guy who wants to fight the guy the other guy promotes.

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Whyte is the WBC #1 ranked contender. Breazeale is now the WBC #2 ranked contender after beating Molina in an eliminator. The WBC clarified that Breazeale/Molina was NOT a final eliminator so I would assume Whyte/Breazeale in a final eliminator would solve any issues. At this point Wilder doesn't have to fight him until the WBC mandates it. Now that Ortiz is free again could that be who Wilder fights next? He could go the voluntary route against Whyte but maybe Hearn has those sneaky option clauses in his contract offer. Nobody really knows as they are going to keep blowing smoke up our a*sses until something is official. So if the WBC orders Wilder/Whyte would it not be in Wilder's best interest to make it go to a purse bid? He would get a 75/25 split I believe. If Hearn is throwing around 4 million offers I would assume he would likely make a substantial purse bid to get the fight in England. He may end up having to offer more than 4 million to make the fight happen in England. It's just a thought. The Japanese could offer Wilder a lot of money to come to Japan & defend his belt against Fujimoto in a historic bout where he would be the first Japanese HW to fight for a world title. Wilder just completed his mando so he has time to explore options.

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Wilder is fine as long as he wins fights, struggle or otherwise his position is set as long as he doesn't screw it up.

A guy like Jennings who fights from the outside and has no real pop or any defense is not going to challenge Wilder. The guys that could beat Wilder are the really good guys, not just any scrub like you are saying. If any scrub could really beat him he would have already lost or been damn close. he has yet to be close to losing so he is quite above the guys you mention.

So if that was the case why was he so gung ho to fight Ortiz who most view as a real threat, Ortiz was the one that blew that chance with his shenanigans not Wilder. The WBC was the one that pulled sanctioning making the fight not something Wilder could even really do after that.

That was totally optional he didn't have to do that, so right there your theory is kind of hit~

Until Wilder does actually fight a real contender, I won't believe it. The WBC lifted the ban on Povetkin and never did ban Ortiz. Let's see who Wilder fights next. It will either be a total can or he'll hold out for Joshua.

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Until Wilder does actually fight a real contender, I won't believe it. The WBC lifted the ban on Povetkin and never did ban Ortiz. Let's see who Wilder fights next. It will either be a total can or he'll hold out for Joshua.

Yea but they were still not able to fight because the WBC said so, it was not Wilder's call WBC pulled sanctioning in both cases, just because the organization is willing to accept money to let the guys off after the fact doesn't change that they were forced to pay the piper before they could do anything.

The most like guy is Breazeale who is currently top ten which is laughable because the guy is a total stiff, but there is history and two Americans with bad blood can be sold and the ending is likely to be a nasty one for Breazeale. the other option would be Ortiz which is more challenging and probably doesn't pay much better and only improves his q-rating with hard core fans. Most anyone would choose Breazeale in that situation because he probably offer the best **** for the buck for setting up a Joshua fight.

If he fights Ortiz now that is purely a sporting reason, but it is possible since both are with Haymon. It really depends on how long the Joshua fight gets put off, if it is less than 12 months out he is probably only fighting one, if it is looking more like 18 months then he probably fights both.