Hearn Confirms Deontay Wilder Doesn't Want Whyte Fight Even If AJ Is On The Contact

[The Gambler1981]

When Parker beat them, Takam and Ruiz Jr were both ranked higher than anybody on Wilder's resume except Stiverne, and no way on earth did Stiverne deserve either the world title or the ranking he was given by the WBC.

So ranking in boxing are not that impressive especially back half top ten guys in a division where there has never been more than 3 or 4 relevant guys at any one time recently.

So Stiverne was ranked much higher than both and you don't value that? Why do those dudes who are also not that good deserve it and are quality but a guy like Duhaupus who became ranked after Wilder fought him or Molina after he beat Adamek did are not any good. Either they are all bad, all decent or all whatever they all essentially accomplish the same things in the sport.

Fighters make the ranking, rankings don't make the fighter and those guys are all fringe lower half guys that you can throw in a bag and pick out names because they re the same.

You can say Wilder has a nondescript dossier of names but don't go acting like anyone at heavy has really put in a lot of work, the top guy has 1 win of real quality which is against an aged former champion coming off a long lay off. Even if I want to include Fury he has one win over that same guy but earlier and did it first other than that all the guys are the exact same at heavy with who they beat.

I don't think Parker is worth a damn but if Joshua beats him he can say he has two decent wins then maybe he can start to talk. One win does not a career make~ that would also apply to Wilder should he beat Joshua btw

[RussB23]

wheres the offer from hearn? hearn put any offer out there publicly? he send wilders people an offer?

DIDNT THINK SO

but lemme guess "wilder want 50/50 man...he nuts..he killin the fight" right?!?! rightt........

till hearn sends an offer there is nothing to discuss...isnt he the a-side? hearn and AJ....so make an offer...till then anything hearn says is nonsense and rubbish

Im sure they made offers already. My guess is wilder is declining them and pricing himself out, because the fight hasnt been announced so far. And deontay is all of a sudden got quiet as **** and hasnt been heard from in a while, after not shutting up for months.


They are either working on making the fight and it will be announced soon, or deontays bluff got called and he tucked his tail.

[kafkod]

So ranking in boxing are not that impressive especially back half top ten guys in a division where there has never been more than 3 or 4 relevant guys at any one time recently.

So Stiverne was ranked much higher than both and you don't value that? Why do those dudes who are also not that good deserve it and are quality but a guy like Duhaupus who became ranked after Wilder fought him or Molina after he beat Adamek did are not any good. Either they are all bad, all decent or all whatever they all essentially accomplish the same things in the sport.

Fighters make the ranking, rankings don't make the fighter and those guys are all fringe lower half guys that you can throw in a bag and pick out names because they re the same.

You can say Wilder has a nondescript dossier of names but don't go acting like anyone at heavy has really put in a lot of work, the top guy has 1 win of real quality which is against an aged former champion coming off a long lay off. Even if I want to include Fury he has one win over that same guy but earlier and did it first other than that all the guys are the exact same at heavy with who they beat.

I don't think Parker is worth a damn but if Joshua beats him he can say he has two decent wins then maybe he can start to talk. One win does not a career make~ that would also apply to Wilder should he beat Joshua btw

Stiverne was ko'd by a journeyman before he fought Wilder the first time and decked by another journeyman in his only outing between the 2 fights with Wilder. The only name Stiverne has ever beaten is a shot to bits Arreola, who was never all that good even in his prime.

Duhaupus, Molina and Spilka are fringe contenders, only a little better than journeymen themselves and they are the best guys Wilder has ever fought. What happened to Molina when he stepped up to AJ tells you everything you need to know about how good he is.

Dillian Whyte would be a step up in class for Wilder, and it looks like he or his team don't want to take that step for fear losing the "cash out or glory" shot at AJ.

[Robbie Barrett]

Im sure they made offers already. My guess is wilder is declining them and pricing himself out, because the fight hasnt been announced so far. And deontay is all of a sudden got quiet as **** and hasnt been heard from in a while, after not shutting up for months.


They are either working on making the fight and it will be announced soon, or deontays bluff got called and he tucked his tail.

Wilder is waiting for them to announce the Parker fight and then he'll announce Breazeale and start talking shit. Nothing but a publicity play.

[rickJen]

Huge joke in boxing. This Deontay guy.
Two long years and all he had to show for in his resume are nothing to brag about.
Never had interest in fighting the top guys which were Fury and Klitschko.
And now he wants a lucrative superfight shamelessly.
Funny part is he and his crummy management team can't offer anything remotely similar to AJ and Hearn are offering.

[The Gambler1981]

Stiverne was ko'd by a journeyman before he fought Wilder the first time and decked by another journeyman in his only outing between the 2 fights with Wilder. The only name Stiverne has ever beaten is a shot to bits Arreola, who was never all that good even in his prime.

Duhaupus, Molina and Spilka are fringe contenders, only a little better than journeymen themselves and they are the best guys Wilder has ever fought. What happened to Molina when he stepped up to AJ tells you everything you need to know about how good he is.

Dillian Whyte would be a step up in class for Wilder, and it looks like he or his team don't want to take that step for fear losing the "cash out or glory" shot at AJ.

A long time ago Stiverne was, so that was not really relevant was it and have you seen that fight? I suggest you watch it before talking about it.


Dillian Whyte is the same as Duahupus, Molina and Szpilka, I would want to watch him fight any of those guys it would be a good fight. that is his level though not above, sure he would beat some and he would lose some (or get a fortunate decision as against Chisora who is also at that level). Yea when those guys step up they lose, it doesn't matter how they lose, they might put up a good effort or they may lay down.

So that is just a personal decision about not wanting to give Hearn anything until he gets Joshua, since Hearn is the one holding it up why should he let Hearn make money off his hide?

[JohnP2]

All outside top 20.

He's actually knocked out five in his career. i.e. Every top 20 fighter who stepped in the ring with him. Others be too scared. Bring facts next time, nephew. :smileysex

[techliam]

No they are not, they are both fringe guys which Wilder has beaten plenty of.

Those guys have done nothing more than any of the guys Wilder fought. Takam has beaten the same type of guys Duahupus did and Ruiz is a poor man's Arreola.

Wilder also beat them much more impressively~

So try again with that noise

I wouldn’t call Ruiz a poor man’s Arreola, considering Ruiz’ performance against Parker out does anything Arreola achieved in his entire career...

[The Gambler1981]

I wouldn’t call Ruiz a poor man’s Arreola, considering Ruiz’ performance against Parker out does anything Arreola achieved in his entire career...

I don't rate Parker highly at all so him going life and death with Ruiz is pretty meaningless to me and hasn't fought since so he sounds a lot like Arreola to me. Lost to an unimpressive guy and then didn't fight for a long ass time drinking beer and getting fatter.


He is basically Arreola except he doesn't have very much power, which is why I would say he is a poor representation.

[kafkod]

A long time ago Stiverne was, so that was not really relevant was it and have you seen that fight? I suggest you watch it before talking about it.


Dillian Whyte is the same as Duahupus, Molina and Szpilka, I would want to watch him fight any of those guys it would be a good fight. that is his level though not above, sure he would beat some and he would lose some (or get a fortunate decision as against Chisora who is also at that level). Yea when those guys step up they lose, it doesn't matter how they lose, they might put up a good effort or they may lay down.

So that is just a personal decision about not wanting to give Hearn anything until he gets Joshua, since Hearn is the one holding it up why should he let Hearn make money off his hide?

Ok, so if Whyte is no better than guys who Wilder has already blown away ... then why is he turning down $4 million + the entire US TV income to fight him?

Why turn down career high money for easy work? Makes no sense.

And who says Hearn is the one holding things up?

Wilder is demanding a 50/50 split with AJ. Do you think Hearn should give him 50% of all the money that would come in from AJ's fans, not Wilder's?

If GGG had demanded a 50/50 split with Canelo, and Oscar had said "No way", would you have blamed Oscar for holding up that fight?