probably jmm over pacquiao.
Greatest wins of the last 20 years?
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i will try to avoid mentioning what has already been said.
rigo vs donaire is an amazing win, for someone with so little pro experience and being outweighed by as much as he was rigo put in 1 of the atg performances vs p4p top 5 at that time.
floyd vs marquez is also a great win, yes marquez was moving up classes but floyd was coming from a layoff and he made marquez (who at the time was running through everyone) look like a sack of ****.
tim bradley vs marquez is a very underrated win, marquez coming off a big ko then gets taken to school by bradley
ward vs kovalev, say what u want he made kov quit like a b1tch.
martinez vs williams, two fought a great fight the first time & paul was iron chinned so no one really expected a ko.
fury vs kliticko, mind games won it for fury, wlad was just puzzled and scared throughout the whole fight. great win over an atg
kelly pavlik vs jermaine taylor, outwilled a very talented fighter and rose to fame
ward vs froch, great win with a broken hand over an atgComment
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Fury v Wlad has to be up there. The fight wasn't great but Fury got into the head of a guy that had been dominating the division for years and then outsmarted him in the ring and took his belts. The heavyweight division really needed that win from Fury. That said, whether the current era is any more exciting will depend on if the fights get made, but it's definitely a more open division than it was and Fury was the man that allowed that to happen. In fact, Fury getting stripped probably had just as much impact as him winning the belts.
If some good fights start getting made and this era of HW boxing becomes much more exciting than the last 10 years, then Fury's win will be seen as a very important win for the HW division.
Also, not many are going to agree but i'm going to say Floyd v Canelo. Hindsight is 20/20 but go back on boxing forums before that fight was signed. People thought Floyd was declining badly and that he would NEVER step into the ring with Canelo. He did, and he absolutely schooled him. It's alright talking about 152 now and Canelo being green but really people were saying Floyd will never take such a dangerous fight. It was an utterly one sided dominant performance from an ageing fighter over a young fighter who is one of the elite fighters of his era. Canelo's team were so sure Floyd was past it and ripe for the picking, make no mistake about that. That's why they all looked in shock when the fight was over and realised he actually is that good.Last edited by TheBigLug; 11-17-2017, 08:42 AM.Comment
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Fury-Klit deserves an honorable mention. I think because it was so unwatchable may detract from it but nobody gave him a chance and Klit was dominant.Fury v Wlad has to be up there. The fight wasn't great but Fury got into the head of a guy that had been dominating the division for years and then outsmarted him in the ring and took his belts. The heavyweight division really needed that win from Fury. That said, whether the current era is any more exciting will depend on if the fights get made, but it's definitely a more open division than it was and Fury was the man that allowed that to happen. In fact, Fury getting stripped probably had just as much impact as him winning the belts.
If some good fights start getting made and this era of HW boxing becomes much more exciting than the last 10 years, then Fury's win will be seen as a very important win for the HW division.
Also, not many are going to agree but i'm going to say Floyd v Canelo. Hindsight is 20/20 but go back on boxing forums before that fight was signed. People thought Floyd was declining badly and that he would NEVER step into the ring with Canelo. He did, and he absolutely schooled him. It's alright talking about 152 now and Canelo being green but really people were saying Floyd will never take such a dangerous fight. It was an utterly one sided dominant performance from an ageing fighter over a young fighter who is one of the elite fighters of his era. Canelo's team were so sure Floyd was past it and ripe for the picking, make no mistake about that. That's why they all looked in shock when the fight was over and realised he actually is that good.
The Canelo one not so much. Canelo was still very much a curiosity. Nobody really gave him a chance at the win and obviously the catchweight. I pretty much disqualified all catch weights a second oftentimes one guy gets a major advantage. Also Canelo was more based on his popularity than his accomplishments at that point - many (mostly Floyd fans) thought Trout beat him before this too.
I think the best wins are the ones that register as a great win over a great opponent in a great moment. It's why Jones-Hopkins I isn't the greatest win of its time because Hopkins didn't really come into his own until years later.Comment
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Fury going to Germany and dismantling Wladimir Klitschko was an incredible performance from a man who was widely considered a joke in the boxing community. Other than myself and a few others, nobody gave Fury a prayer and a lot of people predicted that Wlad would flatten him in the first round.
This is the same Wlad who had barely lost a single round in 12 years and had completely dominated the HW division, most people had Wlad in their top 3 P4P lists at the time.
Incredible performance by the Gypsy King. Take a bow son.Comment
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Man, pretty much the best wins of the last couple of decades have been mentioned, so I guess I'll have to go into the 2nd or 3rd tier of wins:
Taylor over Hopkins - both were close fights but Taylor made Hopkins look old, which is remarkable considering Hopkins would reign twice as THE man at LHW and beat prime, dangerous opponents well into his 40s
Pavlik KO Taylor - as much as Pavlik was being talked up, Taylor was still the man and to beat him in that manner still remains a middleweight highlight
Hopkins over Tarver - to be a 3-1 underdog, against the best light heavy around, while moving up to that division for the first time and to beat him so thoroughly is special. Alongside beating Tito, this is Hopkins stand out victoryComment
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I would say Marquez/Pacq 4is the best of em
Morrales/Pacq 1 for sure
Gonzalez/Mares lets not forget
Mares was a u undefeated p4p star in the rising at that point
Hopkins vs Pascal 2 Bhop put on a true clinic that night
Floyd vs Canelo yea Alvarez was a little green but cmon that is a top notch win no dought
Theres more but thats all i got for now.Comment
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I don't tend to buy into all of Hamed's excuses and even there's some validity to them well that's his choice to be overweight or what have you. Not like he was shot, rusty or at a catchweight.Barrera Hamed wasn't really a great win if you know about the background of the fight and followed Hamed's career. On the day of the fight he was still on the treadmill trying to lose pounds at 4am in the morning. Did about a week of real training and entered the ring with damaged hands, hence his delay with picking the right gloves.
Mosely vs DLH 1 was a clear robbery and Oscar nearly retired because of it. So, no.
Greatest win was: Marquez vs Pacquiao 4. He reduced a whole country to tears.
I think your confusing Mosley-De La Hoya I with the rematch. The rematch I can see Oscar deserving the decision (I had it even) BUT the first fight in June of 2000 in LA was not that close. Shane clearly won and nobody disputes/disputed it.Comment
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Pac vs. Barrera I, Morales II & III, Cotto, JMM II, Bradley II & III, Margarito
Morales vs. Pac I
Hopkins vs. Tarver
Tarver vs. Jones II
Bradley vs. JMM
Calzaghe vs. Jones/Hopkins
Holyfield vs. Tyson I (yeah I know, it's 21 years)
Jones vs. Ruiz
Loma vs. Russell Jr. and Walters
Barrera vs. Hamed
Taylor vs. Hopkins I & II
Maidana vs. Broner
Thurman vs. Garcia
Spence vs. BrookComment
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