When was SSM out of his prime?

[McNulty]

When Vernon Forrest (RIP) made him yell like a bitch!

Shane wasn't even in his prime yet when he lost to Forrest. He was pro for like 9 years lmao.

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The Mayweather fight was the first time he looked properly old. He was coming off the back of a good victory but he did have a long lay-off before the fight and then looked like **** in the next fight against Mora

I just rewatched the first three rounds of SSM.FMJ and Shane looked great and won the first two rounds until Floyd swithced gears after being super rocked. I would attribute what you think was Shane being old to Floyd just being a great fighter. Is that really unreasonable?

As soon as that idiot Lampley said Shane looks tight he rocked Floyd with a big right hand. Early in round 3 Floyd lands a nice left hook and shortly after a nice right hand. Another big right hand for Floyd at the end of the round. For Mayweather to be the agressor in the next round (even Floyd biggest hater said that --- Larry Merchant), shows it's what Floyd DID against Mosley and not what Shane DIDN'T do that changed the fight. That is a fact.

Lets be perfectly clear (see what I did there?) about Shane, when shane moved to 147 he was obviously on The Cream and The Clear against Rivera. I remember seeing that live and was like, wow Shane is a beast! Physically looking different and performance too. Very reasonable to say that Shane looked his best when he was on shít. That was up until 2003. I know he said he didn't take anything before then, but I htink we all know he's lying. Just wanted to note that.

Shane did have a longer than normal layoff for sure, can't argue there. He was 39 and a longer rest should be in order for a fighter that age.

• 16 months off before Mayweather
• 4 months off before Margarito
• 10 months off before Mayorga
• 9 months off before Cotto
• 7 months off before Collazo

Shane turned pro in 93' (age 22) and Floyd turned pro in 96' (age 19).

Shane turned pro older and the oldness is relative because they turned pro right around the same time.

Fighters get old not because of age and their bodies, but because of other mitigating factors, like getting hurt x amount, having wars in the gym or in the ring, wear and tear during camps, etc. Usually when a fighter is 39 they ARE past their prime, but considering Shane turned pro 4 years off schedule you have to honestly shift the model in Floyd's favor.

Shane had very little wear and tear and didn't get in many wars. The last time he took any real damage was 8 years prior. Sure he had losses, but he wasn't getting danced on like Forrest was doing to him.

This, people can't seem to fathom that Shane was past it when he fought Floyd. He was obviously past his peak for years, but he looked old versus Floyd.

Because he wasn't. He was approaching, but there was no clear (oops) that he was. Instead of not having anything intelligent to say, why not let us know what year he last looked good? I take it you don't think he looked awesome against the most feared welterweight in the world when he knocked Margarito out in stellar fashion correct?

Mosely was the embodiment of the tryanny against Margarito. Looked Awesome! In case you forgot I put up a complimentary link to freshen up your lacking memory.

[El Gitano]

If I remember correctly, he had two training camps before Mayweather, I think Berto pulled out because of the Haiti earthquake.

So is the OP trying to say SSM was prime when Floyd fought him?

[H-Tok]

Shane wasn't even in his prime yet when he lost to Forrest. He was pro for like 9 years lmao.

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What? 9 years undefeated is not prime now?

after losing twice to Vernon his record is:

11 wins 8 losses, 1 draw, 1 NC < what kind of prime record is this?

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and if we add the vernon losses thats;

11 wins 10 losses, 1 draw, 1 NC

dont ever quote me again

[McNulty]

So is the OP trying to say SSM was prime when Floyd fought him?

Maybe go back and reread what I asked. It's in clear English designed for someone living in a mud hut and English as their second language to understand.

What? 9 years undefeated is not prime now?

after losing twice to Vernon his record is:

11 wins 8 losses, 1 draw, 1 NC < what kind of prime record is this?

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and if we add the vernon losses thats;

11 wins 10 losses, 1 draw, 1 NC

dont ever quote me again

I have no idea what the fùck you're talking about. One thing I do know is you're a troll and I don't have room in my brain for anymore troll time. You are now being ignored.

[kingstip9]

so now shane was prime when he fought floyd?

[Jsmooth9876]

He had like 17 months off before the floyd fight and was about 39 years old lol.plus he's a fking steroidmabusing loser. Nowadays guys like LOMACHENKO beat up young prime guys like Walters and the same posters say it was dat layoff doe...

[McNulty]

He had like 17 months off before the floyd fight and was about 39 years old lol.plus he's a fking steroidmabusing loser. Nowadays guys like LOMACHENKO beat up young prime guys like Walters and the same posters say it was dat layoff doe...

16 months.

Had just knocked Margarito out COLD at 38 as well as Mayorga.

Turned pro 4-5 years later than an 18 year-old.

Shane turned pro 3 years earlier than Floyd did. 39 with a few *'s.

Instead of being a fùcking troll, get into an intelligent discussion. You won't because you're a casual.

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[Lopez_Boxing]

The Mayweather fight was the first time he looked properly old. He was coming off the back of a good victory but he did have a long lay-off before the fight and then looked like **** in the next fight against Mora

Yeah I agree. She caught up with him. That lay off was brutal. We had no idea going in to the Floyd fight though. Any body that fought him after that was obviously only going after a name

[Lopez_Boxing]

16 months.

Had just knocked Margarito out COLD at 38 as well as Mayorga.

Turned pro 4-5 years later than an 18 year-old.

Shane turned pro 3 years earlier than Floyd did. 39 with a few *'s.

Instead of being a fùcking troll, get into an intelligent discussion. You won't because you're a casual.

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Boyyyyy I’m telling ya mcnulty doesn’t talk smack, he smacks talkers!!! What’s good bro

[paulf]

Do we really need to discuses this?

Its well known to anyone who watched Shane in his career that he was never the same fighter after Vernon beat the **** out of him. Many have opined over the years that Jack was a fool for not stopping it. He was still a great fighter, but peak Shane was done.